Mike - pretty sure you're right, as your hardware acts as a dongle. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Mobile: 07989 486976 Web: http://www.raisedbar.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Atherstone-United-Kingdom/Raised-Bar-Ltd/12023 4896800 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Christer Sent: 03 November 2009 15:56 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar 8.5 producer. Any suggestions? I was under the distinct impression that I didn't need an I-Lock authorization, coz I'd purchased certain Line6 bitz & pieces etc... Maybe I'll have to check it out again? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:57 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar 8.5 producer. Any suggestions? > Yes. Even though the software is freeware, they still require the ILock > key, probably because the original paid version did and they weren't going > to bother to change it. I use the same key as I am using for the korg > collection. I will say though that getting the software properly > authorized > was a pain, but it really sounds great and we can authorize it ourselves, > which we can't do with Native Instruments at this time. > Gord > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:08 AM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar 8.5 > producer. Any suggestions? > > > Why do you have to use a dongle? > > Is this for an I-Lock access thing? > > Cheers > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:26 AM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar 8.5 > producer. Any suggestions? > > >> I'm just using it as a vst soft synth. I have considered getting one of >> the line 6 hardware pedals to use it for live use, but I really don't >> like >> using usb audio devices for soft synths since I use something like 11 of >> them live. I haven't tried using the pod farm live because I don't want >> to >> have to remember to bring my dongle with me all the time. >> Gord >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 3:39 PM >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar >> 8.5 >> producer. Any suggestions? >> >> >> So, are you using Gear Box or Guitar Port, or are these irrelevant? >> >> Mike >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:42 PM >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar >> 8.5 >> producer. Any suggestions? >> >> >>>I just use the track inspector. You can select the different amp models >>>in >>> there and then tweak 0parameters.\ >>> Gord >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:29 PM >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar >>> 8.5 >>> producer. Any suggestions? >>> >>> >>> Hey Gord! >>> >>> How do you utilize Pod farm? >>> >>> I ain't been able to work that one out? >>> >>> I'm up with using the JAWS cursor, so that ain't a prob... >>> >>> Please could you give me some pointers? >>> >>> By the way, have you had any sighted help with Guitar Rig 3? >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 5:46 PM >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar >>> 8.5 >>> producer. Any suggestions? >>> >>> >>>>I just don't think guitar rig 3 is worth the trouble. I like the free >>>>line >>>> 6 pod farm better and it is a lot more straight forward to use, and >>>> it's >>>> free. You do need a dongle though. >>>> Gord >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:10 PM >>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar >>>> 8.5 >>>> producer. Any suggestions? >>>> >>>> >>>> That's not entirely true... >>>> >>>> With a little sighted help, you can get to most of the presets. >>>> >>>> Although it ain't totally comprehensive, its possible to access 80/90% >>>> of >>>> their parameters. >>>> >>>> Alright, it takes a little time/patience, but for a Native Instruments >>>> product, and if you can be bothered to invest a little time, its >>>> workable/usable! >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Ivan Lopez" <ivanlop@xxxxxxx> >>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:22 AM >>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar >>>> 8.5 >>>> producer. Any suggestions? >>>> >>>> >>>> Brian, if I am not misrepresenting what you stated in one >>>> of our erleyer conversations, Guitar Rig is inaccesible, >>>> so why would a blind person instal it? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> Ivan >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:01:44 -0500 >>>> Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Yep, makes sense. >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>>>>Cameron >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:08 PM >>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after >>>>>installing Sonar 8.5 producer. Any suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> I downloaded both 8.5 and the 8.51 patch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan >>>>>Smart >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:49 AM >>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after >>>>>installing Sonar 8.5 producer. Any suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> Lots of little things seem to break when you uninstall >>>>>the older 8.0/8.3 of Sonar. On my system, uninstalling, >>>>>even when selecting to leave shared components, broke >>>>>Z3ta such that it wouldn't load anymore. >>>>> >>>>> Did you get the download version of Sonar 8.5, or did >>>>>you install for DVD? >>>>> >>>>> Bryan >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >>>>>Cameron >>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:12 PM >>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] guitar rig 3 not loading after >>>>>installing Sonar 8.5 producer. Any suggestions? >>>>> Hi all. Yesterday I uninstalled sonar 8.31 and >>>>>installed Sonar 8.5, the 8.51 patch, and the latest >>>>>snapshot of JSonar. Everything seems fine thus far, >>>>>except for guitar rig 3. Whenever I try to load it, it >>>>>says the following plug in failed to load, then it gives >>>>>the path to the vst plug in folder in the cakewalk >>>>>folder. It doesn't give any freaking reason why or >>>>>solution. All there is is the okay button. This is less >>>>>than helpful. >>>>> >>>>> When I rescan failed and existing vst plug ins however, >>>>>everything is fine, I don't get any faled to load >>>>>messages etc. >>>>> >>>>> But, when I try to load guitar rig 3 after the scan, I >>>>>get the exact same error. >>>>> >>>>> now, I uninstalled sonar 8.31, but, I did not uninstall >>>>>guitar rig 3 or the ni service center. If you run guitar >>>>>rig 3 stand alone, it seems to load okay, but it wil not >>>>>load in sonar. >>>>> >>>>> I have an idea. I did a complete install and perhaps >>>>>the guitar rig 3 .dll file was overwritten? But that >>>>>being said, there was not a "file already exists, would >>>>>you like to replace" sort of dialogue box. The >>>>>installation was not interrupted for any reason. >>>>> >>>>> Any suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> I loaded guitar rig 3 when I was still using Sonar 8.31 >>>>>and you can actually get to approx fourty of the presets >>>>>from the presets list of the plug in's window. I'm also >>>>>wondering if there is a way to add them all to that >>>>>preset list. That would be neat. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Cameron. >>>> >>>> Iván A. 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