[ddots-l] Re: Sonar and Sibelius
- From: "A. Caglar Arsu" <acaglararsu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:33:46 +0300
MessageHi dear Nicki,
Thanks allot for the info.
actually I can say that I am good on Sibelius using PC keyboard to compose
a peace from scratch.
What I am not good enough, is using the midi keyboard with sibelius and I am so
new to sonar.
But your directions are so helpful and enlightening for me.
Could you please tell me mor about Using event filter in Sonar?
When I was at Longy school of music majoring in composition in my undergrad
Sibelius was so helpful to me for my homework but now I like to be able to use
technologies we have in a dipper understanding to save the time ant to get done
with the work I have to do in my masters program.
Thanks allot.
Caglar
----- Original Message -----
From: Nicaise D
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar and Sibelius
Caglar,
You can do as both Kevin and Chris suggested by entering your entire music
into Sibelius directly using PC keyboard or your MIDI synth; or you can first
record in Sonar then export into Sib and have a good print out (one or more
staves).
If you enter things directly into Sib you have direct control on how you
notate your music and how it prints out, and the process is straight forward,
that is if you know how to do it. But first you will need to familiarize
yourself with how to enter notation or at the very least how to edit notation
in Sibelius because you will need it regardless of what you do. (consult
sibelius speaking documentation)
The advantage of first recording in Sonar and then exporting into Sibelius is
that your performance is captured and you worry about notation later. Depending
on how complicated and long your music or parts are, this way is sometimes the
way to go especially for those of us who are not music notation technicians. In
other words, we can fix / edit it once it is on the chart but we can't do the
whole thing from scratch. By the time my work is done I almost always end up
combining all three methods. If you want to go from Sonar here is what you do:
1. Record the part in Sonar (just perform) but be sure not to use the sustain
pedal because this recording is destined for Sibelius.
2. Quantize your work. Make sure notes duration and legatos are just like the
way you want them.
3. Using event filter separate your left-hand notes by cutting and pasting
them on a separate track. Now you have two tracks one for right hand and the
other for left hand.
4. Save the file and export it into a temporary Sib score.
5. Create a new Sib blank score with a piano grand staff in it. Copy and
paste the right hand notes from your temporary Sib score on the A staff of your
new Sib score and copy the left hand notes onto the B staff of your new Sib
score.
Things should pretty much look fantastic from that point on. It sounds like a
lot of steps but believe me it goes very fast and puts you back in control.
I hope that helps.
Nicki D
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of A. Caglar Arsu
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 10:31 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar and Sibelius
How do I do this? Could you please explain it to me?
Or is there a specific lesson in the sibelius documentation regarding this
subject?
Thanks
Caglar
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin L. Gibbs
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar and Sibelius
Why not enter the notes in Sibelius using your MIDI keyboard? It's best
not to do this in real time, but you can do it.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of A. Caglar Arsu
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:46 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Sonar and Sibelius
Hello to everyone,
I am using Sonar for some harmony home works for school. After playing my
progrations in Sonar I convert them to midi files and open them in Sibelius to
get the print out. But the problem I do not know how to fix is sibelius prints
everything in only one stave. Since it does it in only one stave, I have lots
of extra lines because of the bass clef. My guess is I have to separate my
keyboard in 2 sections to have 2 channel recording so that I can have the both
hands printed in regular piano format. This is something I do just to save the
time from typing everything in Sibelius.
Could you please tell me How I can do this in sonar, or is there a better
way of doing the thing I am trying to do?
Thanks allot
Caglar
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