Hay Dan!! Great post! Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions Music And Audio Production URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Rugman" <danrugman@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:46 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Scrubbing with Tranzport > Phil, I'm really sorry to be a nit picker but the word amplitude refers only > to the maximum > displacement of the wave form and not the individual points on the graph. > > In purely scientific tirms, the waveform shows either the displacement of the > oscilator or the > voltage coming from the microphone or to the amplifiers at various points in > time. > > Mathematically speaking, the waveform shows you values between +1 and -1 and > the amplitude > multiplies all of these values. > > Zero crossing is in fact the point where the oscilator has a displacement of > zero or the voltage > in the circuitry is zero. In other words, the oscilator is in the rest > position (like a still > string on a cello) or there is no voltage in the circuits. > > Also, setting the grid to zero crossings will only help you to avoid sudden > jumps in the waveform > that cause pops and clicks. The only way to remove sudden changes in the > audio quality itself is > to crossfade between the material before and after the cut. > > Many apolagies for my finnicky snootiness, (that's what a maths degree does > to you) > > Dan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:03 PM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Scrubbing with Tranzport > > >> Neville, >> >> If you are familiar with waveforms and how they look on a graph-for example, >> a sine wave, then... >> the zero crossing is the point where the wave crosses the x axis, or zero >> amplitude. So, zero >> crossings occur with every wave-that's alot of times in a given area of >> time. Perhaps thousands >> of times in a single frame. And, you don't find them-sonar does that for you >> using a setting in >> the snap to grid dialog. As for correcting glyches, I believe that is >> exactly what setting >> your from and to points at zero crossings will do for you. But again, you >> don't look for them, >> sonar finds them(the nearest ones to the from and thru times) when the >> checkbox for >> zero-crossings in the snap to grid dialog is checked. Read about these >> things in the help >> system. >> >> >> >> Disclaimer: I'm not an audio engineer so my terms might not be correct, but >> I believe the basic >> premise is. If I need correcting, please do so. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "neville" <neville@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:01 AM >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Scrubbing with Tranzport >> >> >>> How would one know where to find the zero crossing? Do they occur >>> frequently in the wave or are >>> they far and few. Can you fix the glitch that happens when you apply >>> affects destructively by >>> setting your from and through at zero crossings? >>> thanks >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:46 AM >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Scrubbing with Tranzport >>> >>> >>>> It's the point where you can cut into a wave form, at the point of least >>>> resistance. E.G, if >>>> you apply edits at 0 crossings, then, you shouldn't get any pops and >>>> clicks, because there >>>> isn't much happening on the wave form at that point. >>>> >>>> Regards, Phil Muir >>>> P J Muir Productions >>>> Music And Audio Production >>>> URL: >>>> www.philmuir.com/ >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "neville" <neville@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:36 AM >>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Scrubbing with Tranzport >>>> >>>> >>>>> What are zero crossings? >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:56 AM >>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Scrubbing with Tranzport >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It really is as simple as it looks. I personally never have a problem >>>>>> with zero crossings, >>>>>> but it depends on how fussy you want to get. >>>>>> Gord >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: "ddots-l" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:00 PM >>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Scrubbing with Tranzport >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've just installed sonar5.2, CT5.2 & the Tranzport. Everything is >>>>>>> working fine(thanks for >>>>>>> asking). Regarding Scrubbing audio with the Tranzport--is it really as >>>>>>> simple as it >>>>>>> appears? I mean, Wow, what a difference. I can't find anything on >>>>>>> scrubbing with a control >>>>>>> surface in the documentation, but it seems like all you do is Scrub >>>>>>> with the >>>>>>> Stop/Play/Wheel, set the F9&F10 points, select the region and edit as >>>>>>> you like. Is that it? >>>>>>> Anything else I should know? How about zero crossings--does that >>>>>>> happen automatically when >>>>>>> you set the F9&F10 from and thru points? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One other thing-when scrubbing, I get this weird noise over the >>>>>>> audio-sounds like space >>>>>>> aliens or something. Should I be getting that? 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