The Garritan personal orchestra has excellent strings, but I still use my kurzwiel pc2r a lot. They really did it right with what they had. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Smart To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: I like it easy For Brass, try Arturia Brass. The instruments are physically modeled, like with the Yamaha VL products. For strings, there are gobs of string products that blow away hardware synths. Their are massive giga libraries of ensemble and solo strings, sampled for each note, at multiple velocities, that have extremely long loops. Even Dimension Pro has pretty long string loops. These go way beyond the 30-40MB of string samples in even the new hardware synths. Drums are owned by the computer. There are so many softsynth drum products: integrated products like Drum Kit From Hell, sample libraries from places like Yellow Tools with kits that are hundreds of MB of multisamples, and, for electronic drums, there are so many sampler softsynths and sample libraries available on the computer that we could talk about them for message after message. Of course, getting this stuff to work is a bit more complicated than just selecting a patch on a hardware synth, so you trade off simplicity for quality. Bryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:16 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: I like it easy I'm not sure. To be honest with you, the only soft synth I use is Hypersonic. I'm way more down with external synths and modules as opposed to the vst's. My personal take is that you get alot more realistic sounds in external synths, (especially brasses, strings, and drums.) Omar Binno ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Brayton To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:35 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: I like it easy Ok I'm downloading the demo version of the FM8. Do I need to wrap it with something, like the cakewalk VST wrapper, and can I load presets? That's all I really want to do is work with the presets that come with the deal. http://www.gbrayton.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: I like it easy You could try some by Native Instruments. They have demos you can download and try out on their website. www.nativinstruments.com Omar Binno ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Brayton To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: [ddots-l] I like it easy I can use dimension pro, and I've found some pretty nice sounds in there, but the hypersonic 2 is really much easier to use, and as Bryan has said, has lots of very good sounds. I've seen a note on the trilogy sounds like it's more like the dimension pro, in the way that you have to load it up and use it. I'm interested in hearing about the synths that are out there that are as easy to use as the hypersonic, not that I wouldn't use something else, but I like that ease of use for myself. Are there some others that opperate in the same way that come to mind? http://www.gbrayton.com