[ddots-l] Re: Dimension vs hypersonic
- From: "Bryan Smart" <BSmart@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:48:03 -0500
You can't use any of its interface.
You can use the hyperknobs, though, cause they're connected to MIDI CCs
16-19 and 80-81. You just program your controller keyboard so that 6 of your
sliders or knobs send these controllers. I have a control map on my Axiom
for HS2. The sliders send filter cut-off, filter res, hyperknobs 1 through
6, and portamento time. The sliders send attack time, release time, mod
attack, and variation tone (all which are standard old MIDI CCs). I don't
need to use the Hypersonic interface.
None of these synths permit complete access to all features. HS2 provides
enough for me, though. Just select a preset, move the knobs/sliders, and see
if you can tweak the patch into something that you can use. Whatever you
stumble upon, it will be automatically saved with the project.
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 4:24 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Dimension vs hypersonic
in terms of accessibility, how is the HS2? the hyperknobs and various
dialogs and windows? Basically, how easy is it to use?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chi Kim" <ms22282@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Dimension vs hypersonic
>I really like Hypersonic 2. Demension has bunch of sounds, but they're just
>filling the hard drive space. Hypersonic has probably fewer sounds, but
>more useable sounds. I have both, but I use hypersonic a lot more than
>demension.
>
> Chi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Halton" <philhalt@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:22 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Dimension vs hypersonic
>
>
>> I'm very new to the game, and don't really know much, if anything, about
>> editting patch parameters like attack etc. In general, it sounds like
>> there's nothing that really set these softsynths apart from the TTS-1,
>> aside from a wider range of sounds, and perhaps sound quality in some
>> instances.
>>
>> So, just how much worse is the TTS-1 than the Hypersonic? Its free after
>> all, and if its not completely outclassed by hypersonic, or some other
>> synth, what's the point of spending a few hundred on another softsynth?
>> I guess I really need to hear these synths for myself, but I don't live
>> near anyplace that has these things set up for demo.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bryan Smart" <BSmart@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:58 AM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Dimension vs hypersonic
>>
>>
>>> When you buy a softsynth like this, you're going after a general purpose
>>> tool to give you many types of sounds that you don't have specific
>>> softsynths to cover. Dimension Pro has some good sounds. On the whole,
>>> though, I don't like its library. The weak sounds are very weak. Guitars
>>> and
>>> basses are quite bad. Strings are good for orchestral styles, but I hate
>>> them for pop. Keyboard sounds (rhodes, FM rhodes, clavs) are extremely
>>> cheesy. Drums are poor, and they aren't even laid out in GM format
>>> across
>>> the keyboard. I have a few sounds that I like in Dimension, but it isn't
>>> worth the cost to me. You only get one instrument voice per instance, it
>>> isn't that easy to change presets, and you can't edit them at all to any
>>> real degree.
>>>
>>> Hypersonic II is very different. Some of Dimensions sounds outclass HS2,
>>> but, on the whole, HS2 has a huge library of useable sounds. It has a
>>> few
>>> spectacular sounds, but lots of average sounds. There aren't too many
>>> awful
>>> patches. HS2 is more like a hardware MIDI module: it accepts patch
>>> change
>>> commands and it responds to all of the general MIDI CC commands. You can
>>> also edit patches through sending MIDI CC messages. Each patch has six
>>> edit
>>> controls that are specific to the patch, plus there are all of the
>>> standard
>>> MIDI CCs that can be used for editing (filter cut-off, filter res, amp
>>> attack and release, portamento time, etc). If you have an external
>>> controller with knobs/sliders, you can map these to the CCs that HS2
>>> expects, so that editing a patch is as simple as moving controls until
>>> you
>>> get the sound that you'd like. It isn't full editing of every parameter,
>>> but
>>> most of the main characteristics of a sound can be tweaked, and, anyway,
>>> its
>>> way beyond what can be accomplished with Dimension. Plus, HS2 isn't
>>> strictly
>>> sample playback. The engine supports analog and FM synthesis, so there
>>> is a
>>> wider variety of sound tambers than with Dimension. Its 1.5GB library
>>> isn't
>>> quite to the 7GB that is used by Dimension, but taken as a whole,
>>> Dimension
>>> doesn't sound as good as a Motif, which only has 175MB of sample ROM.
>>> So,
>>> sample ROM size isn't everything.
>>>
>>> Bryan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Phil Halton
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:08 AM
>>> To: ddots-l
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Dimension vs hypersonic
>>>
>>> I've been considering upgrading from the cakewalk TTS-1 to a better soft
>>> synth, and I've been watching this thread on Dimension Pro with
>>> interest. I
>>> hear alot of Pro's, but a few con's that put me off a bit. For example,
>>> its
>>> not multi-timbral (as if I knew why that mattered--just doesn't sound
>>> good).
>>>
>>> Question, is the hypersonic by Steinberg, or any other soft synth, in
>>> the
>>> running with dimension pro? What other softsynths are in this class,
>>> and
>>> should be considered? Of course, accessibility is a main consideration.
>>>
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