[ddots-l] Re: Control Surface Explained

  • From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:42:12 -0000

Correct. Although I would add to this statement the JSonar grabs mor information from the control surface than CT does. 


Regards, Phil Muir

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 9:21 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Control Surface Explained



Tim,

Okay, that makes a lot more sense now. In other words the design of the
device drivers determine which Sonar on-screen features we can get access
to. CT and JSonar each have their own drivers that are different. They each 
make use of a majority of Sonar's features, but each has capabilities that
the other does not.

Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: January 19, 2009 12:49 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How To Read RMS Meter on CT?


Hi,

In this context you can think of a control surface as a device driver -
something that feeds data to and from a piece of hardware.  The Jaws and
Jsonar control surface drivers act as virtual hardware that exploit the fact that Sonar sends useful data to control surfaces - it's a very reliable way of gaining this kind of stuff (far more so than trying to interpret it from 
the video display using traditional screen reading techniques).

Best wishes.

Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone:  +44 (0)1827 719822

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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: 19 January 2009 19:54
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How To Read RMS Meter on CT?

Phil,

Sorry if this sounds trivial, but can you please define what we're talking
about with the term "control surface"? I always thought this was a piece of 
hardware.

Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: January 19, 2009 10:13 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How To Read RMS Meter on CT?

CT does use a control surface however, the JSonar guys, wrote there
own.  That's why you have some features available in JSonar that are not
available in CT such as stereo metering, RMS metres and clips in a list in
the clips pane.  Of course, the reverse is true.  Meaning that there are
some things that you can access in CT that can't be accessed in JSonar but
in this instance, this is nothing to do with the control surface.

Regards, Phil Muir

P J Muir Productions,
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----- Original Message ----- From: Chi Kim <mailto:ms22282@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 5:56 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How To Read RMS Meter on CT?

I thought ct has control surface? I mean when ct installs,
you need to activate its control surface. I'm confused.

Chi
----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:46 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How To Read RMS Meter on CT?


110% positive.  CT has never been able to read RMS
metres and most likely won't be able to until they write their own control
surface.  JSonar can because they get them through the JSonar control
surface. Yet another reason for David to write a control surface for CT or, perhaps talk Bryan Smart into coding the surface for him or if David wants quicker results, talk to Vic and the JSonar team about purchasing a licence from them for the JSonar surface and use it in CT. Also noticed that in the 
latest JSonar 8 release, you can access clips in a list.  Again this is
possible as they are getting clip access through the JSonar control surface. 
Hmm, I wonder how long it will take the JSonar guys to get clip editing
going from the keyboard?

   Regards, Phil Muir

P J Muir Productions,
Music And Audio Production
Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
UK+44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
E-mail:
info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message ----- From: HF <mailto:hermanfermin@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 5:34 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How To Read RMS Meter
on CT?

Are you sure about that Phil?

HF
----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir 
<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 5:01
AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: How To Read
RMS Meter on CT?

Afraid not.  You will need to use
alternative scripts for that, smile.

Regards, Phil Muir

P J Muir Productions,
Music And Audio Production
Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
UK+44-1747-821-794
Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
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info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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www.philmuir.com/

----- Original Message -----

From: Chi Kim
<mailto:ms22282@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 19,
2009 5:54 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] How To
Read RMS Meter on CT?

Maybe I missed, but is there
way to read rms meter with ct?
Thanks,

Chi


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