How would disinformation be inserted in Snowden's downloads? Can you be more specific about the mechanism? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:28 AM, John Young <jya@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It is still not clear, and may never be, how much of the Snowden > material is a deceptive ruse, and he may not know either. Nor > do the outlets to which he provided the material, none of which > had ror have the technical or espionage capability to evaluate, > test, judge what is legitimate, what is salted as disinfo, what is > illusory, what is sheer bluff -- all long-lived characteristics not > only of military affairs but specifically about comsec and > propaganda. The latter has always used the media for broadcasting > deception, willingly done so by media then discounted later, monetizing > the full spectrum of faith and infidelity. > > Official and private skeptics of Snowden assert a classic deception > operation is underway, canards of deception themselves: > > http://cryptome.org/2014/08/snowden-deception-question.htm > > To be sure, it is likely Snowden quietly distributed material to others > with capabilities lacking in journalists and polemicists, either > beforehand > or afterwards. This would be conventional operational security to > not put all eggs in the omelets of journalism alone. > > There are hints in published accounts by Greenwald and Harding > that before Snowden gained Poitras' highly skeptical confidence > he was in contact with intermediaries who could vet his offerings > with technical and espionage skills -- none have come forward to > admit this prior Poitras-Greenwald-Gellman review but their names > are online awaiting disclosure. > > Moreover, there seems to be parallel assessment of the Snowden > caches, however many there are -- dozens of fragments have been > shared according to published reports. But the alleged bulk of the > material remains unreleased, ranging from 58,000 to 1.7 million > items (pages or files). Gellman has never stated the size of the > cache provided to him, except citing one example of examining > 200,000 pages to identify certain info. > > And it is noteworthy that all the reported holders of Snowden > material claim to have checked with authorities before publication. > > Smoke and mirrors, for sure of which Bamford is a master. > > But then, Zelda, are we not all capable of playing the Zelda ruse. >