RE: USF4 changes!
- From: Wynand-Ben <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:18:12 +0000
Im also not seeing how it can help bad matchups.
Picking a different version of the same character or a different character all
together between matches would be just like it was now.
Counterpicking etc.
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:11:20 +0200
> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
> From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> How do you get around the rock/paper/scissors character selection?
> Player 1 picks his zoning scorpion while player 2 goes for rush down
> version of scorpion, it will still be a bad match up for one of the
> guys regardless.
> Tools of the characters, match-up exp and lastly the skill level and
> execution will be the deciding factor.
> To me the understanding of a balance fighting is to make every
> character the same...
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hmmm a good fighting game shouldn't be all about bad match up and lack of
> > knowledge...it should still be fun and challenging in another level when
> > your opponent knows what your character can do.
> >
> > Yes there are bad match ups and character knowledge in fighting games. but
> > it shouldn't be in a state of "i know what you're doing, but i can't
> > retaliate at all"
> >
> > Eg. Tekken. Capos. If my opponent knows how to deal with relax stance and
> > such. I'll play in another mode :) There is no "instant" win in tekken. you
> > can play bears and still win against top tier character because you the
> > player are just better. shouldn't be bringing a plastic ruler to a gun fight
> > situation. should be more or less "experienced fighter with a slightly blunt
> > knife" vs "an okay-ish fighter with a sharp knife".
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> This method of balancing looks like a throw of dice to me.
> >> It can go either way, you potentially have a scenario where you can
> >> lose a match based on lack of character knowledge rather than skill.
> >> If the game has like 30 characters for an example multiply that by 3
> >> so on average you need to be aware of what all 90 variations are
> >> capable of?
> >> Let's wait and see what the move list looks like and how many moves
> >> will change between 3 variations of a character.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > 11.59? XD
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully the character variation will be some answer to really bad
> >> > match
> >> > up. Not sure how they'll balance it tho. It'll be weird to just be a
> >> > total
> >> > counter to another characters variation completely. If that's the case,
> >> > it'll be more rock paper scissors situation than a fighting game lolz
> >> > hopefully the variations will make match ups like 9-1 to 6-4 or what
> >> > not. So
> >> > there'll still be unfavourable match ups but not a complete lose like
> >> > MK9...eg. Kabal vs Sheeva...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I think 12:00 is a safer option Rich :)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM, <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is 11:30 fine also?? I wanna get game time as much as I can
> >> >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
> >> >>> ________________________________
> >> >>> From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> Sender: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:15:48 +0200
> >> >>> To: <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>> ReplyTo: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Heya peeps, we'll be starting the Sat sessions at 12pm to maximise
> >> >>> game
> >> >>> time.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Anyone who is keen on starting a little earlier can join us at that
> >> >>> time.
> >> >>> If you aren't able to make 12pm, that's fine as well.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ashraf Barendse
> >> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I think she feeling a bit lazy today. She was like "Can I speak to
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> main owner of the computer" and I was like "he's at work" and she was
> >> >>>> like
> >> >>>> "k thanx bye"
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
> >> >>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I love those.
> >> >>>>> Start talking linux, usually goes well.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> "move to your start bar"
> >> >>>>> "don't have one"
> >> >>>>> "what version of Windows are you using"
> >> >>>>> "I'm not using Windows"
> >> >>>>> "Open up Internet Explorer"
> >> >>>>> "don't have that either"
> >> >>>>> "open your web browser"
> >> >>>>> "mkay"
> >> >>>>> "install this app"
> >> >>>>> "using my regular tar.z loader or the synaptic package manage?"
> >> >>>>> "huh?"
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> good times.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ashraf Barendse
> >> >>>>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> lol, got a call from an Indian sounding lady calling from "Windows
> >> >>>>>> Technical Department"
> >> >>>>>> How about no.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Williams
> >> >>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> "Can I just buy a complete game please?"
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Not going to happen in this day and age. Those days are over.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
> >> >>>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> LOL
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I don't know which I hate more about fighting games. The update
> >> >>>>>>>> approach like Street Fighter, or the supposedly new game like
> >> >>>>>>>> Blazblue and
> >> >>>>>>>> Persona.
> >> >>>>>>>> It makes me not want to buy the games anymore, because there will
> >> >>>>>>>> be
> >> >>>>>>>> an Update later.
> >> >>>>>>>> Can I just buy a complete game please?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Persona now?
> >> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Blazblue now?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I'm just ranting because I see there's a new character coming out
> >> >>>>>>>> for P4A
> >> >>>>>>>> ...and I was planning to get the new Blazblue (english
> >> >>>>>>>> version)...
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> In all honesty, the Capcom approach makes more sense to me, as
> >> >>>>>>>> much
> >> >>>>>>>> as I dislike it.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Wynand-Ben
> >> >>>>>>>> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> A new dark age starting off with a new Guilty Gear I can
> >> >>>>>>>>> definitely
> >> >>>>>>>>> live with :D
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0200
> >> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
> >> >>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>>>>> > I'm all for the next FG dark age.
> >> >>>>>>>>> > Wreal wrap.
> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>>>>> > On 12/06/2014, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> > > Mortal Kombat Honest Trailer:
> >> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >> >>>>>>>>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCiVYKmCveY
> >> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >> >>>>>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>>>>> >
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