Re: USF4 changes!
- From: Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:11:20 +0200
How do you get around the rock/paper/scissors character selection?
Player 1 picks his zoning scorpion while player 2 goes for rush down
version of scorpion, it will still be a bad match up for one of the
guys regardless.
Tools of the characters, match-up exp and lastly the skill level and
execution will be the deciding factor.
To me the understanding of a balance fighting is to make every
character the same...
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hmmm a good fighting game shouldn't be all about bad match up and lack of
> knowledge...it should still be fun and challenging in another level when
> your opponent knows what your character can do.
>
> Yes there are bad match ups and character knowledge in fighting games. but
> it shouldn't be in a state of "i know what you're doing, but i can't
> retaliate at all"
>
> Eg. Tekken. Capos. If my opponent knows how to deal with relax stance and
> such. I'll play in another mode :) There is no "instant" win in tekken. you
> can play bears and still win against top tier character because you the
> player are just better. shouldn't be bringing a plastic ruler to a gun fight
> situation. should be more or less "experienced fighter with a slightly blunt
> knife" vs "an okay-ish fighter with a sharp knife".
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> This method of balancing looks like a throw of dice to me.
>> It can go either way, you potentially have a scenario where you can
>> lose a match based on lack of character knowledge rather than skill.
>> If the game has like 30 characters for an example multiply that by 3
>> so on average you need to be aware of what all 90 variations are
>> capable of?
>> Let's wait and see what the move list looks like and how many moves
>> will change between 3 variations of a character.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > 11.59? XD
>> >
>> > Hopefully the character variation will be some answer to really bad
>> > match
>> > up. Not sure how they'll balance it tho. It'll be weird to just be a
>> > total
>> > counter to another characters variation completely. If that's the case,
>> > it'll be more rock paper scissors situation than a fighting game lolz
>> > hopefully the variations will make match ups like 9-1 to 6-4 or what
>> > not. So
>> > there'll still be unfavourable match ups but not a complete lose like
>> > MK9...eg. Kabal vs Sheeva...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think 12:00 is a safer option Rich :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM, <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Is 11:30 fine also?? I wanna get game time as much as I can
>> >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>> >>> ________________________________
>> >>> From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> Sender: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:15:48 +0200
>> >>> To: <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>> ReplyTo: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>> >>>
>> >>> Heya peeps, we'll be starting the Sat sessions at 12pm to maximise
>> >>> game
>> >>> time.
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone who is keen on starting a little earlier can join us at that
>> >>> time.
>> >>> If you aren't able to make 12pm, that's fine as well.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I think she feeling a bit lazy today. She was like "Can I speak to
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> main owner of the computer" and I was like "he's at work" and she was
>> >>>> like
>> >>>> "k thanx bye"
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>> >>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I love those.
>> >>>>> Start talking linux, usually goes well.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> "move to your start bar"
>> >>>>> "don't have one"
>> >>>>> "what version of Windows are you using"
>> >>>>> "I'm not using Windows"
>> >>>>> "Open up Internet Explorer"
>> >>>>> "don't have that either"
>> >>>>> "open your web browser"
>> >>>>> "mkay"
>> >>>>> "install this app"
>> >>>>> "using my regular tar.z loader or the synaptic package manage?"
>> >>>>> "huh?"
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> good times.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>> >>>>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> lol, got a call from an Indian sounding lady calling from "Windows
>> >>>>>> Technical Department"
>> >>>>>> How about no.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Williams
>> >>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> "Can I just buy a complete game please?"
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Not going to happen in this day and age. Those days are over.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>> >>>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> LOL
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I don't know which I hate more about fighting games. The update
>> >>>>>>>> approach like Street Fighter, or the supposedly new game like
>> >>>>>>>> Blazblue and
>> >>>>>>>> Persona.
>> >>>>>>>> It makes me not want to buy the games anymore, because there will
>> >>>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>>> an Update later.
>> >>>>>>>> Can I just buy a complete game please?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Persona now?
>> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Blazblue now?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I'm just ranting because I see there's a new character coming out
>> >>>>>>>> for P4A
>> >>>>>>>> ...and I was planning to get the new Blazblue (english
>> >>>>>>>> version)...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> In all honesty, the Capcom approach makes more sense to me, as
>> >>>>>>>> much
>> >>>>>>>> as I dislike it.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Wynand-Ben
>> >>>>>>>> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> A new dark age starting off with a new Guilty Gear I can
>> >>>>>>>>> definitely
>> >>>>>>>>> live with :D
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0200
>> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>> >>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>> > I'm all for the next FG dark age.
>> >>>>>>>>> > Wreal wrap.
>> >>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>> > On 12/06/2014, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> > > Mortal Kombat Honest Trailer:
>> >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >>>>>>>>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCiVYKmCveY
>> >>>>>>>>> > >
>> >>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>> >
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