Ross, For an email client, why not try FoxMail 2.1, 16 bit? It's smaller than Outlook Express, faster, has handy tools for "remote access" into your POP server in case you get a problem message! It's my favorite Win31 email client. I have a download link on my new SurfBest site, on the Downloads page: http://members.surfbest.net/wizard57m@xxxxxxxxxxxx/download.htm As for your WINSOCK.DLL problems, have you considered installing the old MS IE 3.03 for Win3X?? It includes the Shiva Dialer and WINSOCK package. What I do is use the dialer to make my connection then run Opera 3.62 for browsing. Last I checked it was still at ZDNet, but, that's been quite some time. One of my friends at Arachne Quick Chat has put together a package consisting of the dialer only, might ask there by leaving a message on the chat message board... http://chat.arachne.cz If all else fails, let me know and I'll try to find some place to put my copy of IE3 up for download! It's a tad under 5 meg total, so email is out. Good Luck! Glenn -- To unsubscribe, send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe calmira_tips" in the body. OR visit http://freelists.dhs.org