[bvipilots] Re: A IYP VA problem.

  • From: "Adam B. Shaible" <adam.shaible@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 21:17:54 -0700

Hello,
I am sorry if I am getting into this mix wrongly, but it is the teacher in me.
First Ron, awesome job on your first IYP VA run.
Now as for what you did and need to do, go back to the basics!  I am getting 
off the ground here.  Although I've not flown for a while, I want to soon.  So 
I am reading the manuals repetetively.  One manual I read was the special 
user's manual we got for the beta test.  I read version D.  So go back and read 
pages 40-50.  There is a wealthy and detailed instruction set for the VA.  You 
probably did that, and in your zeal and excitement to do another, you may have 
forgotten just for a moment.  If that is not the case then please except my 
apology.  Again, the way I teach is through the problem solving method.  When a 
student gets lost when working with me, we work as a team: going back to where 
they knew, asking questions, more questions and working through the trip.
So, good job, and you will do fine.  You are already ahead of me because you 
flew a VA flight, so keep up the good work!
Captain Robert, if I am incorrect in the advice I gave, then I apologize for 
that.  By the way, I pasted Jordan's advice at the bottom for all of us.



Best regards,
Adam


You have to be a lot faster than that I have noticed. Don't bother shutting
down the Cessna's engines. Once you have selected your flight from the IYP
VA Panel and it is in your simulator, hit Alt, down arrow once to open the
file menu, and then hit enter. That will bring you into the load a flight
screen when you are in FSX. Hit I to go straight to the IYP VA flight and
hit enter. That should take care of this problem.
Jordan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Cezar 
  To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 7:58 PM
  Subject: [bvipilots] Re: A IYP VA problem.


  REGARDING:  But still going to try Jordan’s advice. 


  I still have no idea what that means. 


  r :)


  On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Ron Kolesar <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

    most of them are. 
    I must have just missread them. 
    I need to go just a little slower probably. 
    That’s all. 
    HTH. 
    But still going to try Jordan’s advice. 
    Will keep you in the loop.

    Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states 
    "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."

    From: Robert Cezar 
    Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:55 PM
    To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Subject: [bvipilots] Re: A IYP VA problem.

    Ron, 

    Incidentally, you have a propensity to ignore my questions. Please let me 
reiterate. I asked:
    ===================================================
    Are the instructions are not accessible with your reader? 
    If this is the case, then perhaps I need to have Michelle speak the entire 
instructions out loud. 
    Please let me know.
    ===================================================

    PLEASE ADVISE.


    On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Ron Kolesar <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

      That might be a good option Robert. 
      Thanks. 
      Especially for we still getting our feet wet with the first two or three 
runs. 
      But I’m going to try Jordan’s advice in the morning as well. 
      So thanks.
      Just a thought.

      Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states 
      "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."

      From: Robert Cezar 
      Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:26 PM
      To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Subject: [bvipilots] Re: A IYP VA problem.

      Hi Ron, 

      REGARDING:  Since IYP will not load until a aircraft is out on the 
runway, I usually do the following.
      1. Usually with the red and gold cessna with the tail number of N760 PL.
      I make sure I hear it's engines running.
      2. I think go and fire up IYP.
      3. I shut down the cessna.
      4. I using the voice command open v a pannel and go down to select the 
flight I would like to fly and click in the available button.
      Then I get the option to close out the va pannel or to click here to 
start everything running. 

      The fact that you have loaded a Cessna, engines running, etc.,  is 
completely unnecessary. It makes no difference what aircraft or flight you have 
loaded. It does not matter if the engines are running not. The system cares not 
whether the plane is on the ground, or in mid-flight.  

      Having ANY flight loaded, with ANY aircraft, at ANY state, merely tells 
IYP that the system is running properly. 

      Do NOT mess with the current disposition of the current flight. The 
instructions read:

      Close the VA panel, go to your simulator's menu, and load the IYP flight. 

      It does not say, close the VA panel, go to your simulator, shut down the 
engines, turn on the landing lights, etc., THEN go to simulator's menu, and 
load the IYP flight. 

      Just close the VA panel, go to your simulator's menu, and load the IYP 
flight. 

      Now, after saying that., let me ask this question.

      Are the instructions are not accessible with your reader? 

      If this is the case, then perhaps I need to have Michelle speak the 
entire instructions out loud. 

      Please let me know.

      Thanks.

      Robert








      On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Ron Kolesar <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

        that’s what I’m trying to figrue out myself. 
        Sorry.

        Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states 
        "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."

        From: Robert Cezar 
        Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 8:13 PM
        To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Subject: [bvipilots] Re: A IYP VA problem.

        Incidentally, you've been loading IYP-VA flights for a few days and 
they worked. What are you doing differently? 

        r :)


        On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

          If it's at the top of the list, select it and press ENTER. 



          On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Ron Kolesar 
<kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

            Well Robert. 
            I just checked the list of flights in the alt L field. 
            My most recent attempt IYP 255 is at the top of the list. 
            So this in the correct view option. 
            What next? 
            Thanks.

            Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states 
            "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week."

            From: Robert Cezar 
            Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 7:51 PM
            To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Subject: [bvipilots] Re: A IYP VA problem.

            Hi, 

            REGARDING: you've selected the wrong aircraft

            This means that you've selected the wrong flight.

            It likely means that you have the TITLE list sorted in descending 
order, instead of ascending order which will put the IYP flight at the very 
bottom of the list. 

            Make sure that you are loading the IYP flight that starts with the 
string of characters like...

            _IYP

            r :)


            On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Ron Kolesar 
<kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

              Hi to all.
              Been attempting to link up with the IYP VA server.
              I get to the point where it tells me that we need to synchronize 
to the IYP VA server this might take a few minutes.
              So I wait.
              Then Michelle comes back and tells me that it looks like you've 
selected the wrong aircraft please try again.
              What am I doing wrong?
              I usually do the following.
              Since IYP will not load until a aircraft is out on the runway, I 
usually do the following.
              1. Usually with the red and gold cessna with the tail number of 
N760 PL.
              I make sure I hear it's engines running.
              2. I think go and fire up IYP.
              3. I shut down the cessna.
              4. I using the voice command open v a pannel and go down to 
select the flight I would like to fly and click in the available button.
              Then I get the option to close out the va pannel or to click here 
to start everything running.
              So I click on the clic here button.
              I see that the va pannel brought me to the main page of FSX like 
if you were going to go to the planner putton or to use the alt l to load a 
flight and so on.
              I go to use the alt l command and I get the normal message we 
need to file your flight plan this might take a few minutes please wait.
              So I wait then I hear it looks like you've selected the wrong 
aircraft.
              Please try again.
              Now I flown once.
              Now how did I do it? GRIN.
              Please help.
              Thanks.

              Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
              "that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week." 
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