[BNU] Re: notetakers and Eloquence speech
- From: Ricardo Herrera <deathdogg@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx, braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, pann1@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 11:18:39 -0800
Like the read2Go app, the second gen stream has Heather and Ryan. I like Ryan,
mainly cause I got used to it on the bookshare app on iOS. And yes, I agree,
there are many voices out there that are much better, and I would love to find
them. However, I cannot install them on anything except my laptop, and what the
point in that? I don't plant to read books on my laptop, so yes, hw should put
more human sounding voices.
----- Original Message -----
From: Terri Pannett <pann1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Ricardo Herrera"
<deathdogg@xxxxxxxxx>,b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx,braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:53
Subject: Re: [BNU] notetakers and Eloquence speech
>
>
> I'm one who detests Elloquence speech. Although it's clear, the voice sounds
> quite synthetic to me. The voices that really sound human are the ones on
> the HIMS BookSense. I would never buy a Stream because its voice sounds
> terrible! Paul and Kate are the most human-sounding voices I've ever heard.
> I can't remember whether or not you can change the Elloquence voice on the
> Apex, but the U2Q only has that one male voice that grates on my nerves! I
> prefer male bass voices, like Harry on my Dectalk synthesizer on my PC.
>
> When I used to have my mPower and my Apex, I used Keynote Gold. It doesn't
> sound as well as DecTalk or Paul and Kate, but it sounds better to me than
> Elloquence. I can't explain exactly why I feel this way.
>
> Synthesizers are a subjective thing, so I don't mind if people disagree with
> me. I keep speech turned off on my U2Q most of the time. I have more privacy
> when I do that.
>
> Terri, Amateur Radio Call Sign KF6CA.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ricardo Herrera" <deathdogg@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <pann1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [BNU] notetakers and Eloquence speech
>
>
> > Here are some comments on eloquence. Now, everyone has their personal
> > preference, but here is something I just don't get.
> > When I had my apex, I never, ever had problems with eloquence. It ran
> > smoothly, and the speed of my device was not compromised by running this
> > speech engine. I'm bringing that up because that is one reason why some
> > don't like eloquence on the apex. Everyone that I know personally runs
> > eloquence, and I haven't heard of problems because of it, except on this
> > list. Now on to my other point, how can people stand that robbotic voice?
> > Kng I mean? When I had an mpower for a really short amount of time, that
> > was the voice that it had on it. Now back then, I was new to the braille
> > note, and didn't know how to change it to eloquence, but the moment I
> > heard kng, I hated it. It sounded like a robot, not human at all. It was
> > almost like going back to freedom scientific and their lame voices, that
> > at the time sounded great. Actually, I think their voice on the really old
> > notetakers such as the braille light were much better than kng. Anyway,
> > then I got the apex, and I was happy it had eloquence. Eloquence doesn't
> > sound like a robot. The adult male variant of eloquence, which is what
> > most people know, sounds well, perfect. You can't hear cracking in the
> > voice, unlike some other voices. That and all the voice over voice on iOS
> > and some of the best out there, which is why I got the eloquence voice for
> > nvda. Now espeak sounds like a robot too.
> > The thing I find with having robotic voices is that when you're in a
> > public setting and someone happens to hear it, they'll automatically know
> > and mark you as the blind person with a robot doing your work. However,
> > with a more human sounding voice, which seems to be the trend nowadays,
> > people are less likely to think of you as such. They'll just think of it
> > as a pda, not a robot doing your tasks. And yes, computers are
> > technically, but really, when was the last time you thought of computers
> > as such? (you in second person)
> > All that I have outlined above is all subjective, and as I said, it is a
> > matter of personal preference. I'd be very interested to know why people
> > hate eloquence so much and get some additional feedback. It really is one
> > of the best synthesizers out there in my opinion, and I hope that
> > development continues, although there really isn't much else to do to it
> > except fix problems with pronunciation in other languages. Ok, now,
> > feedback!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terri Pannett <pann1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx,"'bn list'" <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Monday, November 4, 2013 8:51
> > Subject: [BNU] notetakers and Eloquence speech
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I changed the subject line to start a new thread but reply to your
> >> message.
> >>
> >> I don't care for Elloquence speech and I always preferred KeyNote Gold
> >> speech when I had my Apex qt. But for those of you who like it, the HIMS
> >> notetakers support Elloquence quite well. I don't understand why
> >> HumanWare
> >> can't fix it so their notetakers would do the same thing.
> >> Terri, Amateur Radio Call Sign KF6CA.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Brian Lingard" <b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "'bn list'" <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:31 AM
> >> Subject: [BNU] Re: Note on Recent Spam Posts
> >>
> >>
> >> > Ottawa Canada
> >> >
> >> > Dear Alex and List:
> >> >
> >> > The spammer's misspelling of Wednesday did not seem to affect the
> >> > Eloquence in
> >> > my JAWS 15. Hooray!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > But if his crash words caused your BrailleNote, Voice note or Apex
> >> > running
> >> > Eloquence to crash it gets old very quickly/.
> >> >
> >> > Brian
> >> >
> >> >
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