[BNU] Re: notetakers and Eloquence speech

  • From: Ricardo Herrera <deathdogg@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx, braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, pann1@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 09:12:45 -0800

Here are some comments on eloquence. Now, everyone has their personal 
preference, but here is something I just don't get.
When I had my apex, I never, ever had problems with eloquence. It ran smoothly, 
and the speed of my device was not compromised by running this speech engine. 
I'm bringing that up because that is one reason why some don't like eloquence 
on the apex. Everyone that I know personally runs eloquence, and I haven't 
heard of problems because of it, except on this list. Now on to my other point, 
how can people stand that robbotic voice? Kng I mean? When I had an mpower for 
a really short amount of time, that was the voice that it had on it. Now back 
then, I was new to the braille note, and didn't know how to change it to 
eloquence, but the moment I heard kng, I hated it. It sounded like a robot, not 
human at all. It was almost like going back to freedom scientific and their 
lame voices, that at the time sounded great. Actually, I think their voice on 
the really old notetakers such as the braille light were much better than kng. 
Anyway, then I got the apex, and I was happy it had eloq
 uence. Eloquence doesn't sound like a robot. The adult male variant of 
eloquence, which is what most people know, sounds well, perfect. You can't hear 
cracking in the voice, unlike some other voices. That and all the voice over 
voice on iOS and some of the best out there, which is why I got the eloquence 
voice for nvda. Now espeak sounds like a robot too.
The thing I find with having robotic voices is that when you're in a public 
setting and someone happens to hear it, they'll automatically know and mark you 
as the blind person with a robot doing your work. However, with a more human 
sounding voice, which seems to be the trend nowadays, people are less likely to 
think of you as such. They'll just think of it as a pda, not a robot doing your 
tasks. And yes, computers are technically, but really, when was the last time 
you thought of computers as such? (you in second person)
All that I have outlined above is all subjective, and as I said, it is a matter 
of personal preference. I'd be very interested to know why people hate 
eloquence so much and get some additional feedback. It really is one of the 
best synthesizers out there in my opinion, and I hope that development 
continues, although there really isn't much else to do to it except fix 
problems with pronunciation in other languages. Ok, now, feedback!

----- Original Message -----
From: Terri Pannett <pann1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx,"'bn list'" <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, November 4, 2013 8:51
Subject: [BNU]  notetakers and Eloquence speech

>
>
> I changed the subject line to start a new thread but reply to your message.
> 
> I don't care for Elloquence speech and I always preferred KeyNote Gold 
> speech when I had my Apex qt. But for those of you who like it, the HIMS 
> notetakers support Elloquence quite well. I don't understand why HumanWare 
> can't fix it so their notetakers would do the same thing.
> Terri, Amateur Radio Call Sign KF6CA.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brian Lingard" <b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "'bn list'" <braillenote@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:31 AM
> Subject: [BNU] Re: Note on Recent Spam Posts
> 
> 
> > Ottawa Canada
> >
> > Dear Alex and List:
> >
> > The spammer's misspelling of Wednesday did not seem to affect the 
> > Eloquence in
> > my JAWS 15.  Hooray!
> >
> >
> > But if his crash words caused your BrailleNote, Voice note or Apex running
> > Eloquence to crash it gets old very quickly/.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
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