[brailleblaster] Re: Some Thoughts

  • From: Michael Whapples <mwhapples@xxxxxxx>
  • To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:37:08 +0000

John,
I have mentioned this before, it does matter whether the native libraries are 32-bit or 64-bit. What really matters is what architecture (32-bit or 64-bit) the JVM is compiled for as the JVM is linking to the native libraries. You would not link a 32-bit liblouisxml with a 64-bit liblouis would you? If you wouldn't then why try and get the JVM to do that? 

Michael Whapples
On 02/02/11 17:51, John J. Boyer wrote:

Alex,

I'm looking forward to seeing your moc-up. I always like looking at
source code.

My release is a little strange. The swt.jar is for Windows, because that
is where I will test a GUI when there is one. I only use the command
line on Linux and don't have Gnome or anything else. The gtk and Windows
SWT jars have the same name swt.jar. I suppose the Mac one does also.
You will have to go to http://eclipse.org/swt

I rather think that it doesn't matter whether the native libraries are
32 or 64 bit, as long as the OS can run them. It shouldn't matter to the
JVM.

John

On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 09:26:12AM -0800, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

Hi John,

I didn't notice the ")". That should have been an underscore.

The reason why I have built my app bundle is to firstly address my own workflow 
and secondly to do something that I feel can contribute to the project.

I have a new mock up ready for submission.

By the way, is the SWT library included in your release of BB for Linux? Do you 
have the Mac version?

Regards,
Alex,


On 2011-02-02, at 9:19 AM, John J. Boyer wrote:


More. I looked at the mock-up. That was one reason that I thought it was
time toemphasize that BrailleBlaster is one word.

I'm not familiar with app bundles, but I can't help wondering if this is
all more complicated than it needs to be. For testing, why can't you
just run BrailleBlaster as it is to see what errors you get.

A trivial matter but I noticed the directory name X86)64 Could you
replace the right parenthesis with an underscore? My Linux shell doesn't
like it.

John

On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 08:52:17AM -0800, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

Hi,

I suppose that the Mac issues should be resolved in any case. This would help 
the Mac community as a whole.

I've built my boot loader now, but I can't test it yet.

Did you get a chance to look at my mock up yet?

What do you think of it?

Regards,
Alex,

Alex Jurgensen,
VoiceOver Trainer,

Visit me on the web at: http://www.vipbc.org/


On 2011-02-02, at 12:19 AM, John J. Boyer wrote:


I've read through all these messages, and I'm convinced we should stick
with SWT. By the time BrailleBlaster is ready for use by anybody other
than a developer the problems on the Mac may be resolved. We can add a
little pressure to the Eclipse developers to help things along. The idea
of using the SWT browser to present GUI content is interesting.

The classpaths specified in the ant build.xml file go iknto the manifest
of the BrailleBlaster jar file. This makes callinng BrailleBlaster very
convenient on my flavor of Linux and on Windows. We could make different
versions of BrailleBlaster for different distros, but I think that is
something for the early adapters who use these distros to worry about.
They will know their own flavors. And many of them won't care about the
standard locations.

Let's learn from Alex's experience in proting BrailleBlaster to the Mac.
Concern about various Linux flavors at this time is a distraction.

As for me, I'm concentrating on getting BrailleBlaster to work with at
least generic embossers. Then I'll make a simple text editor using a
GUI. the experience in doing this will be necessary to make the real
GUI. The text editor will remain as a BrailleBlaster feature to be used
by advanced users.

Incidentally, BrailleBlaster is a single word.  It should not have a
space.

John

--
John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities


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Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities



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Abilitiessoft, Inc.
http://www.abilitiessoft.com
Madison, Wisconsin USA
Developing software for people with disabilities

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