[bookshare-discuss] Re: correcting books after download
- From: "Rui Cabral" <rui@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 23:22:57 -0400
Hi Don:
There is a group of volunteers who have decided to go beyond "official
bookshare guidelines" because we are trying to put up the highest quality
books possible.
OCR software is at a point where we can obtain excellent scans, and there is
nothing more annoying then reading a book through a bunch of junk.
I do urge you to visit the Unofficial Volunteer Bookshare Scanning Site,
-- Rui
http://members.cox.net/booksharescans
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Bishop" <w6smb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:28 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: correcting books after download
> Hi Cindy,
>
> I certainly don't expect perfect books as the validating process is being
done by people and there's no real way to totally automate the process.
>
> I brought it up not to complain, but rather to figure out if there is some
way to improve the quality of the scanned book while still being able to do
what
> bookshare is about which is to be able to read books and get information
from them. It's a hard line to walk, but a whole lot better than no access
at all, and
> I'd like to think we're all trying to make it better as time goes on.
>
> Don
>
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 01:12:40 -0700 (PDT), Cindy wrote:
>
> Don, you aren't the only one who's commented on the
> fact that books rated "Good" really aren't all that
> good. There has been a lot of discussion and
> validators are now trying to make books perfect,or
> close -- and there is a concerted effort going on to
> have people who scan books make corrections before
> they upload them. When there are too many scanning
> errors, validators who don't have a lot of time
> release the books and it takes quite a while for them
> to get into the collection --if they ever do.
> "rn" for "m", as in your example, can't be corrected
> by a quick replace with, unless one is absolutely
> certain that the word "corn, or "born, isn't used, or
> that there isn't some other word that *should *have
> ""r n" instead of "m". The only way to make these
> books truly "Excellent" is for the validator to read
> them and correct as he or she goes along. -- and/or
> for the scanner to do that before submitting the book.
> More and more people are now taking the care necessar
> to do this, so the later submissions should be in much
> better shape than the older ones. Some members are
> going to download books in the collection marked Fair
> or Good, correct them, and submit them as replacement
> copies. I think they'll get credit for it, too. If you
> feel like becoming a volunteer (apparently it's a
> separate process from being a member) and doing that,
> with the book you're currently reading, you could. Are
> you aware that as a volunteer you get credit toward
> your annual membership? I think the going rate is
> $2.50 for scanning and submitting a book and 50 cents
> for validating one that's on the download for
> validatin list. (I thought someone onceposted that
> itwas $3.50 for scanning -- I do't know for sure which
> is correct)l
>
> Cindy
>
> --- Don Bishop <w6smb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I'm a bookshare subscriber and haven't posted much
> > here at all,but I do have a question.
> >
> > I've been reading the questions by those who have
> > the time to validate books, and they've prompted
> > questions of my own.
> >
> > I've found that I prefer reading the .brf files from
> > bookshare as just can't get used to synthesized book
> > readers. But, I notice some errors and some appear
> > to
> > actually be consistent. Such things as words which
> > should be hyphenated but are treated as separate
> > words, many on a consistent basis. There are other
> > times where the first syllable will be (I think) com
> > which is actually translated as the word corn.
> >
> > My question is this: I read the discussions about
> > book corrections and note that validators are
> > downloading the books to be validated in word or rtf
> > or even
> > text format. Are they then converted to the daisy
> > and .brf formats as part of the post-validation
> > process?
> >
> > I'm trying to figure out whether the errors I'm
> > seeing are from the original scans, the translation
> > to .brf, or maybe in some other step I'm not aware
> > of. And,
> > how can I best correct these, at least for my own
> > personal braille reading if nothing else.
> >
> > I'm presently reading a book called Independence
> > without sight or sound which is rated as "good", but
> > in all honesty, I'd really have to rate the quality
> > as
> > somewhat lower than that.
> >
> > I realize this book may be from the early bookshare
> > days when procedures were still being put into
> > place,so I honestly don't want to be too critical
> > here. Just
> > wondering what I might do to make the errors less of
> > a distraction. It's kind of a text book format
> > anyway, so the errors really do tend to slow down
> > reading.
> >
> > I must confess I haven't done a lot of reading from
> > bookshare until very recently when I've been able to
> > get more time for reading.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions and/or tips.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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