[bookshare-discuss] Re: Making your pointRE: Re: debbie McComber
- From: "Ana Jacob" <anajacob2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:15:32 -0500
And that is exactly it. If you can too easily predict the next event, it's not
too much of an escape
On a similar but slightly off note, does anyone know of any good Christian
romance writers? As mentioned earlier in this conversation, good Christian
fiction can be hard to find, but if I can find a good Author that would be
great. I love romance, but so much of it is full of more lust and infatuation
than real, genuine love, which, in my opinion, makes for an exasperating read.
Ana Jacob
Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart.
Commit your way to the Lord; trust in him and he will do this. Psalm 37:3-5
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From: lana
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Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:01 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Making your pointRE: Re: debbie McComber
Again, it's a balancing act. Variety is good, especially in setting, but
there is something to be said for a degree of predictability. We who love
romances, even though we would like there to be a little more plot, want the
reassurance of knowing they are going to end happily. The world is just to
chaotic for our fictional lives to be as well. Surprises, yes, Twists and
turns, yes, but the resolution MUST make me feel good.
Others see things differently. They want something more literary, and that's
fine, but I'm talking about romances, fantasys, and other escape reading. In
other words, I want to escape.
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From: Ana Jacob
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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:55 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Making your pointRE: Re: debbie McComber
I could not have said any of that better myself. I'm pretty sure we're on
the same page on all this. I agree with your point about Danielle Steel, also,
honestly, I find her books to be just too predictable, I guess would be a good
word for it. Perhaps I shouldn't comment, since I've only read 3, maybe 4 of
her books, but for the most part they weren't all that different. The general
mood and stile of the stories seem to follow the same pattern. Perhaps not all
her books are like that, but frankly, I'm not a big fan of that type of
romance. I'm not trying to offend anyone who does like her books. I know
she's quite popular, each to his or her own, these are just my feelings on it.
I haven't read Debbie Macomber so can't comment there.
Ana Jacob
Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your
heart.
Commit your way to the Lord; trust in him and he will do this. Psalm 37:3-5
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From: Kim Friedman
To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:19 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Making your pointRE: Re: debbie McComber
Hi, Ana, I personally prefer a good story. Any book you read is going to
be about something depending on the type of book. If I'm reading non-fiction, I
will either be informed, amused, asked to consider an opinion expressed,
especially if one is reading about an issue and the author feels it necessary
to present all sides of a question. If I read fiction, I'm more interested in
the plot and characters. Heavy expository writing in fiction generally isn't
conducive to the story, but if the author can weave just enough in to leaven
the various events, then I don't mind. What I tend to dislike is if the author
hits the reader over the head with statements of how someone feels that is
obvious based on the description of actions, emotions, etc., in other words,
some authors don't know when to stop spelling things out for the reader (I hate
to say it, but I find Danielle Steel and Debbie Macomber guilty of this.)So if
somebody's palms are sweating and they're doing something like drumming their
fingers on the table or pacing, wouldn't you get the idea the character was
agitated? Do you really need to be told the someone is feeling nervous? If the
result of dialog is to foster resentment between people, you can tell by the
angry conversation and the actions done by the resentful party which tells you
somebody isn't happy. You're a human being and don't need obvious statements
(if you are a space alien, on the other hand, you would need stuff spelled
out). By building on plot and character, creating a mood or atmosphere, plus
the the knowledge of the driving motives, desires, etc. of your characters, the
reader will understand you have a controlling idea or ideas to your story and
they are illustrated through the story. I'd say if you have a point to make, do
it through and within the story. Regards, Kim Friedman.
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From: Ana Jacob [mailto:anajacob2@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:24 AM
To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: debbie McComber
Wow, I completely agree with you. Given the choice between a good book
with a Christian theme, and just a good book, I'll take the Christian one any
day. However, books that are obviously trying hard to prove a point or teach a
lesson, usually take away from the story because it becomes too unrealistic.
That's not to say a book can't have a lesson or underlying point to it, a good
book, in fact, does do that, but if it's too obvious it becomes too predictable.
sorry for the ramble.
Ana Jacob
Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your
heart.
Commit your way to the Lord; trust in him and he will do this. Psalm
37:3-5
----- Original Message -----
From: lana
To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:30 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: debbie McComber
I'm going to get into all kinds of trouble for saying this, but
probably the reason Debbie McComber is on for romance, not religion is that her
books, those I've read, focus on relationships and romance, not the salvation
of the main characters. In the Christian Romances I've read, the coming to
Christ is more important than the romance or even the story itself, and I say
this as a Christian. When I read, I want a ripping good story with a happy
ending. A strong religious foundation strengthens the story, but it's not why
I'm reading it.
I recently read Shean on the Silk by ann Perry. It had a lot to say
about religion and one's personal relation with God without making that the bee
all and end all of the story. it made it richer. It made it far better, but
the story could have stood without it.
Now, I'd better duck!
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From: gwen tweedy
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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:24 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: debbie McComber
And I thought so but my husband reminded me that not only do her
books say strong language but some have description of sex,
so guess that is why she's not there.
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From: gwen tweedy
To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:20 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] debbie McComber
I think the reason Debbie McComber is not on the heartsong
presents is when I have looked on some of her talking books, some say "some
strong Language"
and she is not really listed as religion and spirituality in all
cases.
It is just listed as romance only.
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