[bookshare-discuss] Re: Making your pointRE: Re: debbie McComber

  • From: "lana" <lana5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:01:55 -0600

Again, it's a balancing act.  Variety is good, especially in setting, but there 
is something to be said for a degree of predictability.  We who love romances, 
even though we would like there to be a little more plot, want the reassurance 
of knowing they are going to end happily.  The world is just to chaotic for our 
fictional lives to be as well.  Surprises, yes, Twists and turns, yes, but the 
resolution MUST make me feel good. 
Others see things differently.  They want something more literary, and that's 
fine, but I'm talking about romances, fantasys, and other escape reading.  In 
other words, I want to escape. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ana Jacob 
  To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:55 PM
  Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Making your pointRE: Re: debbie McComber


  I could not have said any of that better myself.  I'm pretty sure we're on 
the same page on all this.  I agree with your point about Danielle Steel, also, 
honestly, I find her books to be just too predictable, I guess would be a good 
word for it.  Perhaps I shouldn't comment, since I've only read 3, maybe 4 of 
her books, but for the most part they weren't all that different.  The general 
mood and stile of the stories seem to follow the same pattern.  Perhaps not all 
her books are like that, but frankly, I'm not a big fan of that type of 
romance.  I'm not trying to offend anyone who does like her books.  I know 
she's quite popular, each to his or her own, these are just my feelings on it.  
I haven't read Debbie Macomber so can't comment there.
  Ana Jacob
  Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your heart. 
  Commit your way to the Lord; trust in him and he will do this. Psalm 37:3-5
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Kim Friedman 
    To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 5:19 PM
    Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Making your pointRE: Re: debbie McComber


    Hi, Ana, I personally prefer a good story. Any book you read is going to be 
about something depending on the type of book. If I'm reading non-fiction, I 
will either be informed, amused, asked to consider an opinion expressed, 
especially if one is reading about an issue and the author feels it necessary 
to present all sides of a question. If I read fiction, I'm more interested in 
the plot and characters. Heavy expository writing in fiction generally isn't 
conducive to the story, but if the author can weave just enough in to leaven 
the various events, then I don't mind. What I tend to dislike is if the author 
hits the reader over the head with statements of how someone feels that is 
obvious based on the description of actions, emotions, etc., in other words, 
some authors don't know when to stop spelling things out for the reader (I hate 
to say it, but I find Danielle Steel and Debbie Macomber guilty of this.)So if 
somebody's palms are sweating and they're doing something like drumming their 
fingers on the table or pacing, wouldn't you get the idea the character was 
agitated? Do you really need to be told the someone is feeling nervous? If the 
result of dialog is to foster resentment between people, you can tell by the 
angry conversation and the actions done by the resentful party which tells you 
somebody isn't happy. You're a human being and don't need obvious statements 
(if you are a space alien, on the other hand, you would need stuff spelled 
out). By building on plot and character, creating a mood or atmosphere, plus 
the the knowledge of the driving motives, desires, etc. of your characters, the 
reader will understand you have a controlling idea or ideas to your story and 
they are illustrated through the story. I'd say if you have a point to make, do 
it through and within the story. Regards, Kim Friedman.  



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    From: Ana Jacob [mailto:anajacob2@xxxxxxxxx] 
    Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:24 AM
    To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: debbie McComber


    Wow, I completely agree with you.  Given the choice between a good book 
with a Christian theme, and just a good book, I'll take the Christian one any 
day.  However, books that are obviously trying hard to prove a point or teach a 
lesson, usually take away from the story because it becomes too unrealistic.  
That's not to say a book can't have a lesson or underlying point to it, a good 
book, in fact, does do that, but if it's too obvious it becomes too predictable.
    sorry for the ramble.
    Ana Jacob
    Delight yourself in the Lord and he will give you the desires of your 
heart. 
    Commit your way to the Lord; trust in him and he will do this. Psalm 37:3-5
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: lana 
      To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:30 PM
      Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: debbie McComber


      I'm going to get into all kinds of trouble for saying this, but probably 
the reason Debbie McComber is on for romance, not religion is that her books, 
those I've read, focus on relationships and romance, not the salvation of the 
main characters.  In the Christian Romances I've read, the coming to Christ is 
more important than the romance or even the story itself, and I say this as a 
Christian.  When I read, I want a ripping good story with a happy ending.  A 
strong religious foundation strengthens the story, but it's not why I'm reading 
it.  
      I recently read Shean on the Silk by ann Perry.  It had a lot to say 
about religion and one's personal relation with God without making that the bee 
all and end all of the story.  it made it richer.  It made it far better, but 
the story could have stood without it. 
      Now, I'd better duck!
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: gwen tweedy 
        To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:24 PM
        Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: debbie McComber


        And I thought so but my husband reminded me that not only do her books 
say strong language but some  have description of sex,
        so guess that is why she's not there.

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: gwen tweedy 
          To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:20 PM
          Subject: [bookshare-discuss] debbie McComber


          I  think the reason Debbie McComber is not on the heartsong presents 
is when I have  looked on some of her talking books, some say "some strong 
Language"
          and she is not really listed as religion and spirituality in all 
cases.
          It is just listed as romance only.



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