[bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get read before being submitted?
- From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:54:51 -0700
Hi, Cindy. Well, I read over half the book before I hit all that junk. Some
junk is acceptable, at least to me, but when it interferes with the book,
the text is interrupted and, in a lot of cases, totally not there, that's
when I got frustrated. I did come across some junk characters I deleted and
some incorrect words, but I deleted the junk in that case and fixed the
words, but when I hit all that junk where it was impossible to tell what was
supposed to be there...well, that was that. Take care.
Julie Morales
Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow in
your heart.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:32 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get read before being
submitted?
Julie,
Hopefully you read my reply to boomerdad, but in case
not -- be sure to notify Jesse that the book is
unreadable all the way through.
BTW, Jesse -- when a member downloads a book from the
collection that he/she can't enjoy, do they get a
credit for the book, so it doesn't count against their
limit of 50 (or whatever?)
Cindy
--- "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I can relate to this. Last night, I was reading one
> of the Left Behind
> books. I was over halfway done with the book when I
> encountered pure junk.
> Nothing made sense. I kept scrolling through, trying
> to find where I left
> off or at least somewhere where the text started
> making sense, but no luck.
> I was so frustrated! It irritates me when you get
> into a book and not
> realize it has some junk pages until you've already
> gotten into it. I guess
> I'll be downloading this copy from Web braille, as I
> know they have the
> whole series, but it is frustrating. Take care.
> Julie Morales
> Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He
> wants to put a rainbow in
> your heart.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "boomerdad" <boomerdad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:12 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Do these books get read
> before being submitted?
>
>
> After having some difficulty scanning Wizard and
> Glass by Stephen King (I
> think Openbook doesn't like scanning big books when
> set to scan page layout
> elements, but that's a whole other topic for another
> list), I downloaded WIG
> from Bookshare and began to read. My first finding
> was that the entire book
> was double-spaced. I was a bit irritated, but I
> figured well, maybe there
> was a problem either in converting the book to the
> Bookshare format, or
> maybe when Openbook loaded it as an .ark file
> something happened. I
> figured, well, I can just manually fix this as I
> read. No big. Then I came
> up on a page that is completely and totally garbled,
> beyond any ability to
> recognize what the text is supposed to be. There
> are ^ symbols all over the
> place, and other oddities. Granted, the book is
> over 600 pages long, and
> that may be the only page like this ... I stopped
> reading in disgust and
> opted to try re-scanning this mammoth with Openbook.
> I have yet to do so;
> that's tomorrow's t
> hree-plus-hour task. My question is: If the person
> read this before
> submitting it, why not re-scan the offending
> page(s)? And if the submitting
> person didn't read it before submitting ... why
> submit something you haven't
> read yourself? It just seems like an awfully big
> leap of faith to do this;
> I've done it twice, and both times I was,
> thankfully, given the opportunity
> to make "corrections" in the form of rescanning
> pages that had
> unintelligible material. Once I was able to take
> advantage of the
> opportunity, once I wasn't ... but it taught me a
> very valuable lesson, as
> was reinforced by my Wizard and Glass experience.
> Besides, if you read
> something before submitting it, you get a chance to
> edit out the errors of a
> scan and submit a near-perfect to perfect copy of
> your book.
> It occurs to me as I write this that maybe the
> offending page could've been
> caused by Openbook somehow, as I've encountered
> garbled pages like this when
> scanning with Finereader from time to time. I find
> this unlikely, though,
> since so far as I know, Openbook merely reads from
> the Daisy-formatted book,
> and doesn't "convert" it to anything.
>
> The only possible objection to this
> read-before-submitting thing that comes
> readily to mind is "Well, if we did that, many fewer
> books would be
> available," to which I reply that while this is
> true, the quality of said
> books would be more consistent, more likely than
> not, and would lead to many
> more satisfying reading experiences. I submit many
> more books to
> Bookshare.org than I personally download, mainly
> because I've found from my
> experiences that downloading a book from Bookshare
> is a rather hit-and-miss
> experience.
>
> I also want to hasten to add that I am not in any
> way flaming the individual
> who submitted Wizard and Glass. As I said, I've had
> this happen myself to
> two of my submissions, so the question is more or
> less hypothetical; I was
> merely relating my experience, which happened to
> involve that particular
> book.
>
> If this post has had a harsh edge to it, I assure
> you it's not intentional.
> I am frustrated, and that has probably carried over
> into my writing, despite
> my attempts to prevent it from doing so. I already
> have scanned the book
> twice unsuccessfully because of the affore-mentioned
> page-layout problem in
> OpenBook, and the idea of scanning it *again* is ...
> well ... frustrating.
> I thought about just trying to re-scan any
> problematic pages ... but the
> Bookshare pages and Openbook's page divisions don't
> line up, so I'd have to
> do all sorts of cutting and pasting and deleting and
> ... yikes...! I think
> if my problem had just been with garbled pages, I'd
> do it, but since I would
> have to delete all those blank lines as I read the
> Bookshare version ...
> I'll try scanning it one. more. time. with the
> page-layout feature turned
> off and hope for better results.
>
> If nothing else, thanks for listening to (reading)
> me vent. I realize
> Bookshare is a voluntary program, and its existence
> is a wonderful thing;
> that's why I've joined it, and that's why I submit
> books I read. I just
> wish that when downloading a book to read from
> Bookshare, I could be more
> secure in the knowledge that I won't have to worry
> about encountering
> incomprehensible garbage that makes me guess at what
> occurred in passages of
> a book.
>
>
>
>
>
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