[bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get read before being submitted?
- From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:08:51 -0700
I might do that. I'll have to go back in and get the exact title, but I
think I will. I love the Left Behind books and just about went nutty when I
couldn't finish it. *smile* Take care.
Julie Morales
Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow in
your heart.
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From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 4:13 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get read before being
submitted?
Julie,
If you think that the book should be rescanned, email booksharescans@xxxxxxx
so that Rui will put it on his list of books to be rescanned.
----- Original Message -----
From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 5:54 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Do these books get read before being
submitted?
> I can relate to this. Last night, I was reading one of the Left Behind
> books. I was over halfway done with the book when I encountered pure junk.
> Nothing made sense. I kept scrolling through, trying to find where I left
> off or at least somewhere where the text started making sense, but no
luck.
> I was so frustrated! It irritates me when you get into a book and not
> realize it has some junk pages until you've already gotten into it. I
guess
> I'll be downloading this copy from Web braille, as I know they have the
> whole series, but it is frustrating. Take care.
> Julie Morales
> Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow
in
> your heart.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "boomerdad" <boomerdad@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:12 AM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Do these books get read before being
submitted?
>
>
> After having some difficulty scanning Wizard and Glass by Stephen King (I
> think Openbook doesn't like scanning big books when set to scan page
layout
> elements, but that's a whole other topic for another list), I downloaded
WIG
> from Bookshare and began to read. My first finding was that the entire
book
> was double-spaced. I was a bit irritated, but I figured well, maybe there
> was a problem either in converting the book to the Bookshare format, or
> maybe when Openbook loaded it as an .ark file something happened. I
> figured, well, I can just manually fix this as I read. No big. Then I
came
> up on a page that is completely and totally garbled, beyond any ability to
> recognize what the text is supposed to be. There are ^ symbols all over
the
> place, and other oddities. Granted, the book is over 600 pages long, and
> that may be the only page like this ... I stopped reading in disgust and
> opted to try re-scanning this mammoth with Openbook. I have yet to do so;
> that's tomorrow's t
> hree-plus-hour task. My question is: If the person read this before
> submitting it, why not re-scan the offending page(s)? And if the
submitting
> person didn't read it before submitting ... why submit something you
haven't
> read yourself? It just seems like an awfully big leap of faith to do
this;
> I've done it twice, and both times I was, thankfully, given the
opportunity
> to make "corrections" in the form of rescanning pages that had
> unintelligible material. Once I was able to take advantage of the
> opportunity, once I wasn't ... but it taught me a very valuable lesson, as
> was reinforced by my Wizard and Glass experience. Besides, if you read
> something before submitting it, you get a chance to edit out the errors of
a
> scan and submit a near-perfect to perfect copy of your book.
> It occurs to me as I write this that maybe the offending page could've
been
> caused by Openbook somehow, as I've encountered garbled pages like this
when
> scanning with Finereader from time to time. I find this unlikely, though,
> since so far as I know, Openbook merely reads from the Daisy-formatted
book,
> and doesn't "convert" it to anything.
>
> The only possible objection to this read-before-submitting thing that
comes
> readily to mind is "Well, if we did that, many fewer books would be
> available," to which I reply that while this is true, the quality of said
> books would be more consistent, more likely than not, and would lead to
many
> more satisfying reading experiences. I submit many more books to
> Bookshare.org than I personally download, mainly because I've found from
my
> experiences that downloading a book from Bookshare is a rather
hit-and-miss
> experience.
>
> I also want to hasten to add that I am not in any way flaming the
individual
> who submitted Wizard and Glass. As I said, I've had this happen myself to
> two of my submissions, so the question is more or less hypothetical; I was
> merely relating my experience, which happened to involve that particular
> book.
>
> If this post has had a harsh edge to it, I assure you it's not
intentional.
> I am frustrated, and that has probably carried over into my writing,
despite
> my attempts to prevent it from doing so. I already have scanned the book
> twice unsuccessfully because of the affore-mentioned page-layout problem
in
> OpenBook, and the idea of scanning it *again* is ... well ... frustrating.
> I thought about just trying to re-scan any problematic pages ... but the
> Bookshare pages and Openbook's page divisions don't line up, so I'd have
to
> do all sorts of cutting and pasting and deleting and ... yikes...! I
think
> if my problem had just been with garbled pages, I'd do it, but since I
would
> have to delete all those blank lines as I read the Bookshare version ...
> I'll try scanning it one. more. time. with the page-layout feature
turned
> off and hope for better results.
>
> If nothing else, thanks for listening to (reading) me vent. I realize
> Bookshare is a voluntary program, and its existence is a wonderful thing;
> that's why I've joined it, and that's why I submit books I read. I just
> wish that when downloading a book to read from Bookshare, I could be more
> secure in the knowledge that I won't have to worry about encountering
> incomprehensible garbage that makes me guess at what occurred in passages
of
> a book.
>
>
>
>
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