Actually Humanware and the NFB had a contract for the design of the loaner players. Another company is manufacturing the players. The Victor Stream was developed separately and is distinctly different from the loaner players. Karl ____________________ Karl Smith Access Technology Specialist Axis 4304 South El Camino St. Taylorsville, Utah 84119 Phone: 866-824-7885 Fax: 866-824-7885 E-mail: karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx No one will ever go broke underestimating the intelligence of the human race. - H. L. Menkin -----Original Message----- From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:57 AM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] Re: nls and current book port2 I wasn't aware Humanware was designing the NLS. players. I thought they had a player, victor Reader Stream, which was ahead of the pack in the private sector, which was NLS. file format capable. -----Original Message----- From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Willyard Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:46 AM To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookport] Re: nls and current book port2 This is primarily a money and posturing issue. NLS has invested heavily in convincing everyone from Congress to the press that their method is secure, proprietary, and exclusive. That's why they've needed so many years and millions of dollars for research. Since Humanware won the bid for designing their players, it stands to reason that a perceived or actual rival would be locked out. If NLS let you transfer files with a normal computer or a Book Port, they might have to admit to Congress that most of their antics over the past ten years were for show, not practicality. I'm not normally a negative person. However, I've seen NLS and other agencies play this game too many times before, and it really bugs me. It doesn't make it more pleasant because I understand the rules of this game. Monica Willyard __________ NOD32 2558 (20070928) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com