Its moving bakcward that is the problem. -- Pete From: "foxtrot" <foxtrot1@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bookport] Re: New Beta, Bookshare, and moving backwards Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:58:32 -0400 When I "6-9" to get to the next article, BP reads through the two iterations of the title and reads the article; I don't have to press the "69" twice. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "ptorpey" <ptorpey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:33 PM Subject: [bookport] New Beta, Bookshare, and moving backwards > I downloaded the Aug. 21 edition of the New York Times from Bookshare. > I am reading this with the new betas (BP, BPFW, and BWR) on the > Bookport. I noticed that most of the sections or article titles are > repeated twice in succession. Thus, when one uses the 6+9 keys to > move to the article "Quotation of the Day", the next press of the 6+9 > keys brings you to another occurrence of "Quotation of the Day". The > contents of this article begins after the second occurrence of the > mark "quotation of the Day". . There are two problems with this: > > 1. One has to press 6+9 twice to move to the next article (in most, > but not all cases). Thus, it takes twice as many clicks to move > through the newspaper. > > 2. If one wants to navigate backwards as the Bookport is reading, if > the reading passes the first occurrence of the marking "quotation of > the Day", and then you hit the 4+7 keys to go back a section, you will > be brought to the first occurrence of the marking "quotation of the > Day" rather than the previous article. Since the titles for the > articles are so short, they can quickly be passed if one has the > Bookport reading quickly and you'll never be able to move back to a > previous article unless you either: a. Quickly hit the 4+7 keys twice, > or b. Stop the Bookport reading and use the 4+7 keys to move > backward. > > Again, this is only an example. There seem to be many articles where > the title is repeated twice and this issue occurs. Perhaps the DAISY > markup from RFB&D is not correct? Maybe you can work with RFB&D on > this as well as the mark-up for sections so that we can use the 1+4 > and 3+6 keys to move by section as you are trying to implement. > > As an aside but related issue, moving backward with either the 1, 4, > or 7 keys while the Bookport is reading often has this issue even with > other formats (BRF, TXT, etc.), even if no titles/words are repeated. > This isn't only an issue with the new beta and DAISY material. In > some BRF and TXT books, the only way I can move backward is to stop > the Bookport reading and magically pass over some "crack" by pressing > the 1 key, and then start the Bookport riding again and try to move > backward. This happens for certain parts of ALL books/magazines (most > often downloaded from NLS web-braille or NLS magazines). It would be > great if this issue could be fixed so that one could reliably move > backward while the Bookport is reading. > > > -- Pete > > P.S. Great that we can now move by article in this type of material! >