[bookport] Re: New Beta, Bookshare, and moving backwards

  • From: "ptorpey" <ptorpey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:09:47 -0400

Its moving bakcward that is the problem.
-- Pete


From: "foxtrot" <foxtrot1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bookport] Re: New Beta, Bookshare, and moving backwards
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:58:32 -0400

When I "6-9" to get to the next article, BP reads through the two
iterations of the title and reads the article; I don't have to press the
"69" twice.

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ptorpey" <ptorpey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: [bookport] New Beta, Bookshare, and moving backwards


> I downloaded the Aug. 21 edition of the New York Times from Bookshare.

> I am reading this with the new betas (BP, BPFW, and BWR) on the 
> Bookport. I noticed that most of the sections or article titles are 
> repeated twice in succession.  Thus, when one uses the 6+9 keys to 
> move to the article "Quotation of the Day", the next press of the 6+9 
> keys brings you to another occurrence of "Quotation of the Day".  The 
> contents of this article begins after the second occurrence of the 
> mark "quotation of the Day".  .  There are two problems with this:
>
> 1. One has to press 6+9 twice to move to the next article (in most, 
> but not all cases).  Thus, it takes twice as many clicks to move 
> through the newspaper.
>
> 2. If one wants to navigate backwards as the Bookport is reading, if 
> the reading passes the first occurrence of the marking "quotation of 
> the Day", and then you hit the 4+7 keys to go back a section, you will

> be brought to the first occurrence of the marking "quotation of the 
> Day" rather than the previous article.  Since the titles for the 
> articles are so short, they can quickly be passed if one has the 
> Bookport reading quickly and you'll never be able to move back to a 
> previous article unless you either: a. Quickly hit the 4+7 keys twice,

> or b. Stop the Bookport reading and use the 4+7 keys to move
> backward.
>
> Again, this is only an example.  There seem to be many articles where 
> the title is repeated twice and this issue occurs.  Perhaps the DAISY 
> markup from RFB&D is not correct?  Maybe you can work with RFB&D on 
> this as well as the mark-up for sections so that we can use the 1+4 
> and 3+6 keys to move by section as you are trying to implement.
>
> As an aside but related issue, moving backward with either the 1, 4, 
> or 7 keys while the Bookport is reading often has this issue even with

> other formats (BRF, TXT, etc.), even if no titles/words are repeated. 
> This isn't only an issue with the new beta and DAISY material.  In 
> some BRF and TXT books, the only way I can move backward is to stop 
> the Bookport reading and magically pass over some "crack" by pressing 
> the 1 key, and then start the Bookport riding again and try to move 
> backward. This happens for certain parts of ALL books/magazines (most 
> often downloaded from NLS web-braille or NLS magazines).  It would be 
> great if this issue could be fixed so that one could reliably move 
> backward while the Bookport is reading.
>
>
> -- Pete
>
> P.S. Great that we can now move by article in this type of material!
>




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