[bookport] Re: New Beta, Bookshare, and moving backwards

  • From: "foxtrot" <foxtrot1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:58:32 -0400

When I "6-9" to get to the next article, BP reads through the two iterations
of the title and reads the article; I don't have to press the "69" twice.

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ptorpey" <ptorpey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: [bookport] New Beta, Bookshare, and moving backwards


> I downloaded the Aug. 21 edition of the New York Times from Bookshare.
> I am reading this with the new betas (BP, BPFW, and BWR) on the
> Bookport.
> I noticed that most of the sections or article titles are repeated twice
> in succession.  Thus, when one uses the 6+9 keys to move to the article
> "Quotation of the Day", the next press of the 6+9 keys brings you to
> another occurrence of "Quotation of the Day".  The contents of this
> article begins after the second occurrence of the mark "quotation of the
> Day".  .  There are two problems with this:
>
> 1. One has to press 6+9 twice to move to the next article (in most,
> but not all cases).  Thus, it takes twice as many clicks to move through
> the newspaper.
>
> 2. If one wants to navigate backwards as the Bookport is reading,
> if the reading passes the first occurrence of the marking "quotation of
> the Day", and then you hit the 4+7 keys to go back a section, you will
> be brought to the first occurrence of the marking "quotation of the Day"
> rather than the previous article.  Since the titles for the articles are
> so short, they can quickly be passed if one has the Bookport reading
> quickly and you'll never be able to move back to a previous article
> unless you either:
> a. Quickly hit the 4+7 keys twice, or
> b. Stop the Bookport reading and use the 4+7 keys to move
> backward.
>
> Again, this is only an example.  There seem to be many articles where
> the title is repeated twice and this issue occurs.  Perhaps the DAISY
> markup from RFB&D is not correct?  Maybe you can work with RFB&D on this
> as well as the mark-up for sections so that we can use the 1+4 and 3+6
> keys to move by section as you are trying to implement.
>
> As an aside but related issue, moving backward with either the 1, 4, or
> 7 keys while the Bookport is reading often has this issue even with
> other formats (BRF, TXT, etc.), even if no titles/words are repeated.
> This isn't only an issue with the new beta and DAISY material.  In some
> BRF and TXT books, the only way I can move backward is to stop the
> Bookport reading and magically pass over some "crack" by pressing the 1
> key, and then start the Bookport riding again and try to move backward.
> This happens for certain parts of ALL books/magazines (most often
> downloaded from NLS web-braille or NLS magazines).  It would be great if
> this issue could be fixed so that one could reliably move backward while
> the Bookport is reading.
>
>
> -- Pete
>
> P.S. Great that we can now move by article in this type of material!
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