[bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits

  • From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:12:45 -0400

Hahaha! You are right, the issue is quality, not time taken. But I would argue that there is a relationship between the two that is not necessarily one to one, but significant nonetheless. It is not a book or two, but a pattern involving a lot of books.


What you are describing with the book you checked out is an isolated incident; and you certainly did more than the Jiffyproofing being talked about here. What I and others here are talking about is a pattern of checking out books and checking them back in again without any apparent attempt to even look at the text. They couldn't have done so in the time they had.

Now, if the quality of all those submits was truly stellar, then that would be great, and no major correcting would have had to be done. But, unless they were all children's books, which we know they were not, how would anyone have been able to find out what the quality was in the kind of timeframes we're talking about here?

Still, having said all that, the question occurs to me: Could even several Jiffy proofreaders, taking several books each day, be responsible for the drastic decline in the number of books on the Check Out page? I suppose it is possible, but it seems unlikely that that is the entire cause. But as Lissi says, we just don't know enough to do anything other than speculate at this point.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:25 AM
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Evan should only be allowed to send messages like that after the kids have gone to bed. After all, we do have standards here <smile>.

However, I still say that the problem is in the quality, not in the time it takes to proofread a book. And, that's what we should be reporting to bookshare.

For example, yesterday I downloaded The Boss's Christmas Proposal by Allison Leigh. Don't ask me why because I don't know--except, perhaps I really wanted something to validate (I mean proof read). But it's a harliquin romance, and I'm more in to Nero Wolfe.

It started out with a 99.7 in Kurzweil, which is where most of the books I proofread end up. But, there were a couple of interesting problems. For example, the author kind of liked the word tsk meaning "shame on you". She used the word tsked (past tense of tsk) three times in her book, two of them were plainly correct, but one of them made no sense, and the only way I could make it make sense was to change tsked to asked. I also took out the running titles at the tops of pages and protected chapter headings. I eventually got the message from Kurzweil that we love to hear, "your document did not have any errors in it, wow! what are the chances of that?" So, I sent the book back up and it's been accepted in the collection. I had the book for less than twenty-four hours. And I don't think I did a jiffy proofread.

However, I must admit I didn't read the entire book, it isn't my cup of tea, at all. In fact, I did read the last chapter, and I found myself laughing too hard to proofread anything.

Bob (who isn't criticizing anyone else's reading preferences)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia" <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:21 PM
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Oh dear, that's a scary thought.
Julia
----- Original Message ----- From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:59 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits


Well, if one person takes, say an average of twenty minutes per book, then they can turn over their five books in less than two hours.

That's just one person. If several people are doing this, then that could add up to a lot of books per day that get taken and sent up to the admin queue.

And that, of course, assumes that this hypothetical person only does five books per day. If they wanted to, they could turn over quite a few more books than that.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits


Since they can each only take five books, this still means very few fiction books are on the check in books list Roger.

At 01:11 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote:
Nicholas Wilcox and Julie Barrett got them all.

"Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx

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There are so few books on  check in books page these days and so few
of them are fiction. What is going on? So little for a proof reader
to do, sigh!!

E.

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