Actually I could do that, this is a small library but I think books they don't have could be ordered.At 06:45 PM 3/22/2009, you wrote:
Bud, Can't you check the library's web site and give your friend a list of books to pick up for you?----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Schwab" <budschwab@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submitsHi Guys, I think one of the reasons that the list of books for proofreading is getting smaller is that bookshare has some 30 some thousand books already. I have a neighbor that brings us books from the library here in Malibu and many times all of them that she brings are already in bookshare. Right now I have nine books to read but bookshare already has all of them. So from my small world here that is part of the reason. I'm always disappointed when all she brings are already in bookshare but I just go ahead and read them fast without having to pay attention to any errors. I'm hoping this Friday she will bring some that I can submit. Later. Bud At 03:07 PM 3/22/2009, you wrote:Hi Evan and Lissi. I agree that it would be helpful to have some comments on these issues from Pavi. Unfortunately, since Pavi doesn't spend much time interacting with us, I'm not sure she can see the big picture and the factors contributing to it. I think Carrie can because she reads the list, understands our history, and sees the numbers of books involved directly. Because Bookshare is growing so nicely, I would be very surprised if any single factor is causing the lower levels of books available for proofreading. By the same token, I'm sure there are some factors in play that we on this list don't know about or understand fully. Lissi, I don't think we'll get to the point where there are no books to work on because any volunteer could choose to upload a new book at any time. That's why I think it would help to balance things if we can put our heads together to encourage those volunteers who are able to start submitting more books. I really value our team of proofreaders, and I'm committed to working with everyone to find a solution. If we brainstorm, I'll bet we can come up with some ideas to get people excited and engaged again. Monica Willyard "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of EVAN REESE Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:13 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits Hahaha! You are right, the issue is quality, not time taken. But I would argue that there is a relationship between the two that is not necessarily one to one, but significant nonetheless. It is not a book or two, but a pattern involving a lot of books. What you are describing with the book you checked out is an isolated incident; and you certainly did more than the Jiffyproofing being talked about here. What I and others here are talking about is a pattern of checking out books and checking them back in again without any apparent attempt to even look at the text. They couldn't have done so in the time they had. Now, if the quality of all those submits was truly stellar, then that would be great, and no major correcting would have had to be done. But, unless they were all children's books, which we know they were not, how would anyone have been able to find out what the quality was in the kind of timeframes we're talking about here? Still, having said all that, the question occurs to me: Could even several Jiffy proofreaders, taking several books each day, be responsible for the drastic decline in the number of books on the Check Out page? I suppose it is possible, but it seems unlikely that that is the entire cause. But as Lissi says, we just don't know enough to do anything other than speculate at this point. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:25 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits> Evan should only be allowed to send messages like that after the kids > have> gone to bed. After all, we do have standards here <smile>. >> However, I still say that the problem is in the quality, not in the > time > it takes to proofread a book. And, that's what we should be reporting > to> bookshare. > > For example, yesterday I downloaded The Boss's Christmas Proposal by > Allison Leigh. Don't ask me why because I don't know--except, perhaps I > really wanted something to validate (I mean proof read). But it's a > harliquin romance, and I'm more in to Nero Wolfe. >> It started out with a 99.7 in Kurzweil, which is where most of the > books I> proofread end up. But, there were a couple of interesting problems. For> example, the author kind of liked the word tsk meaning "shame on you". > She> used the word tsked (past tense of tsk) three times in her book, two of> them were plainly correct, but one of them made no sense, and the only > way> I could make it make sense was to change tsked to asked. I also took > out > the running titles at the tops of pages and protected chapter headings. > I> eventually got the message from Kurzweil that we love to hear, "your > document did not have any errors in it, wow! what are the chances of > that?" So, I sent the book back up and it's been accepted in the > collection. I had the book for less than twenty-four hours. And I don't > think I did a jiffy proofread. > > However, I must admit I didn't read the entire book, it isn't my cup of > tea, at all. In fact, I did read the last chapter, and I found myself > laughing too hard to proofread anything. > > Bob (who isn't criticizing anyone else's reading preferences) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julia" <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:21 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits > > >> Oh dear, that's a scary thought. >> Julia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:59 PM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits >> >> >>> Well, if one person takes, say an average of twenty minutes per book, >>> then they can turn over their five books in less than two hours. >>> >>> That's just one person. If several people are doing this, then that>>> could add up to a lot of books per day that get taken and sent up to >>> the>>> admin queue. >>> >>> And that, of course, assumes that this hypothetical person only does>>> five books per day. If they wanted to, they could turn over quite a >>> few>>> more books than that. >>> >>> Evan >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:36 PM >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits >>> >>> >>>> Since they can each only take five books, this still means very few >>>> fiction books are on the check in books list Roger. >>>> >>>> At 01:11 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote: >>>>>Nicholas Wilcox and Julie Barrett got them all. >>>>>>>>>> "Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in >>>>> various>>>>> ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx >>>>> >>>>>table with 2 columns and 6 rows >>>>>Subj: >>>>>[bksvol-discuss] where are all the submits >>>>>Date: >>>>>3/21/2009 1:08:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time >>>>>From: >>>>>thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Reply-to: >>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>To: >>>>>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Sent from the Internet >>>>>(Details) >>>>>table end >>>>> >>>>>There are so few books on check in books page these days and so few >>>>>of them are fiction. What is going on? So little for a proof reader >>>>>to do, sigh!! >>>>> >>>>>E. >>>>> >>>>>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>>>>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a >>>>>list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the >>>>>subject line. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>************** >>>>>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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