[bksvol-discuss] Re: smart quotes

  • From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:23:25 -0700

I can certainly understand Tracy's frustration, and, Maria, I too appreciate your detailed information on this issue. 


I have begun to combine and braille information like this.
However, it seems to me that this explanation should be in the volunteer manual, and am pretty sure it is not. 

Cat Lover Lori
----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: smart quotes




Hi Maria,

Not Tracy, but that certainly does help me.  Thank you so much for such a
clear explanation of how to correct this problem.

Sue S.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Kristic" <maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: smart quotes


Hi Tracy,

The problem with smart quotes is that they appear as â characters in the
converted DAISY file which appears on Bookshare. This means that, in the RTF file, they will still appear as smart quotes and not as â characters. Smart quotes and generic double quotes differ only in their ASCII values in terms 
of how a screen reader will announce them and output them to a Braille
display, so to replace them, you'll have to do a Find/Replace in Word with
ASCII values. The opening smart quote is ASCII 147, the closing is ASCII
148, and the generic one is ASCII 34; to specify ASCII or ANSI characters in 
the Find/Replace dialog, type a caret (^, SHIFT+6), followed by the
character code. So, first perform a Find/Replace, typing ^0147 in the Find
edit field and ^0034 in the Replace edit field, and Replace All; then,
perform another Find/Replace, this time typing ^0148 in the Find field and
again ^0034 in the Replace field. If that doesn't work for you, omit the
first zero after the carets in
 all cases (i.e., the sequence in each edit field would then be a caret
followed by a three-digit number). This should replace the smart quotes with 
normal ones.

Incidentally, and this is just an aside, though it relates, Word, by
default, is set to automatically replace normal quotes with smart quotes
when you type a quote (SHIFT+APOSTROPHE). If you want to disable this
specific replacement, go to Tools > AutoAutoCorrect Options in Word. You'll 
land on the AutoCorrect tab, so CTRL+TAB once to land on the AutoFormat As
You Type tab You'll land in a list view of options. DOWN ARROW once to land 
on the Straight Quotes with Smart Quotes check box. Press SPACE to uncheck
it, then ENTER to close the dialog/save changes.

HTH,
Maria
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:27 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] smart quotes

I can't even find any a circumflex in my rtf file.  Either this Bob is
making it up, or editing in rtf is totally pointless, and I might as well
give up validating altogether, as I appear to be completely wasting my
time.
I have gotten a lot of pleasure from validating for Bookshare over the
last 3 or 4 years, whatever it is, but how the hell can I fix things I
can't even find?
First I spend a lot of time working on a book that was a duplicate
submission, and now these stupid smart quotes, whatever that is.  I'm very
frustrated!!!!!!
Tracy
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