[bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings

Whoa! Tina, what was all that? The first part of your message was fine, but 
the rest was unreadable. Take care.
Julie Morales
Children are fragile. Handle with prayer. --Unknown
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tina birenbaum" <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


so Hi and happy new year.  In reading about people's scanners, it made me 
wonder how
long their bulbs last.  I have a 10 year old reading edge which used to do 
great on books and even mail but I seem to be lucky if it'll rbd my mail 
much anymore so  s"ts ,i use
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mi<t ,i j h a bad bulb & h{ d y replace ~? 2c x gives me jib}i%1  or is my 
be/ bet probably j 6get a new scann}4

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:15:13 -0500
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings

>Any validator can replace a book.  When I validate replacement books I am 
>very careful with checking whether it is a truly improved copy.  I don't 
>take the submitter's word that it is.  I check for myself.  I had a couple 
>of instants that books were submitted as improved copies, but when I 
>checked with K1000, they were significantly worse copies.  So I rejected 
>them.  Others have been somewhat similar but I cleaned them up some, so 
>they were better.  And still others were the same and so I rejected them.

>Tiffany, as Julie said you can always resubmit your books or email 
>bookshare about it.  Because we should be improving the collection., not 
>down grading it.
>Grace
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Gary Petraccaro
>  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:48 PM
>  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>  Who's responsible for judging the quality of a replacement.  I've sent a 
> few replacements, but they were usually for books that I was asked to do 
> or of books I'd originally done and could now improve.

>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: Tiffany H.  Jessen
>    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:13 AM
>    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>    Yes, I get the letter of acceptance, then some time later, (sometimes 
> even
>    months later), I get a notice that my copy has been replaced by a 
> superior
>    quality.  And yes, I use Kurzweil to rank the quality.  It's not always 
> a big
>    difference, but in all of the cases so far they have been  decreases in
>    quality.  After looking over the books more closely I suppose they 
> could
>    still be considered excellent shape, but they're more borderline where 
> as
>    mine were nearly perfect.  Oh well...

>    ----- Original Message -----
>    From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx
>    To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>    Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:15 PM
>    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>> Tiffany:

>> Do you actually receive an email telling you that your book has been
>> replaced?
>> That can be very frustrating especially if you feel that the book has 
>> been
>> down graded, not improved.

>> K1000 is an excellent tool for comparing book quality.  When you look at
>> the list of mispelling you get to see what type of errors it has.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tiffany H.  Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:18 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>>> Oh no, I don't worry about a validater ranking my book as good if I 
>>> think
>>> it is excellent.  My concern is when I have a book approved in 
>>> excellent,
>>> and then X amount of time later someone else scans that same book and 
>>> has
>>> it approved as an excellent quality, when in fact it is lower than what 
>>> I
>>> did.  I wouldn't mind my book being replaced if it were in fact a 
>>> superior
>>> quality, the objection is when it goes the other way around.

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 6:58 AM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings


>>>> Tiff and Shelley

>>>> Perhaps it is age, I'm in my mid 50s, but I don't leg my ego
>>>> into the process worry8ing whether someone labels my excellent scan as
>>>> good, et al.  At first, I thought it meant something; but as a 
>>>> validator
>>>> myself, I realize that it's generally an arbitrary decision made by
>>>> another human being, and nothing more.
>>>> So if validator takes my excellent submission and believes it only to 
>>>> be
>>>> good, what does it matter in the grand schemes of things?

>>>> As for Lissi's questions, Julie pretty much conveys my feelings.
>>>> And if a book sits too long on Step 1, as Cindy notes, I always have 
>>>> the
>>>> option of self-validating which I did on a couple of Christmas books so
>>>> that they would make it into the collection for the Christmas reading
>>>> season.

>>>> As a validator myself, I get to know the work styles of submitters and
>>>> tend to validate those who do the work upfront so to speak.
>>>> So I quickly know what will need to be done, if anything, based on my
>>>> experience with their work as well as comments they supply.
>>>> I attempt for quick turn arounds and attempt to avoid knitpicking as,
>>>> with
>>>> over 600 books on Step 1, time is best spent on titles that frankly
>>>> don't
>>>> need much handholding.
>>>> I would only spend that time on Step 1 books that I believed were
>>>> special
>>>> to the collection amd might not be replacible.
>>>> Spending hours upon hours validating something, in most instances, 
>>>> makes
>>>> little sense as rescanning it would be faster.
>>>> Keep in mind that 5 times the credits are given for submissions vs
>>>> validations which indicates where the effort ought to be placed in a
>>>> priority scheme.

>>>> Just some rambling thoughts which I doubt hold much significance.  To
>>>> sum
>>>> up, a topnotch submission requires little from the validator beyond 
>>>> spot
>>>> checking and verification.  And once one learns the work habits and
>>>> tendecies of those they validate, the process becomes even more
>>>> streamlined.


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