[bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
- From: "Julie Morales" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:11:49 -0500
Whoa! Tina, what was all that? The first part of your message was fine, but
the rest was unreadable. Take care.
Julie Morales
Children are fragile. Handle with prayer. --Unknown
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From: "tina birenbaum" <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
so Hi and happy new year. In reading about people's scanners, it made me
wonder how
long their bulbs last. I have a 10 year old reading edge which used to do
great on books and even mail but I seem to be lucky if it'll rbd my mail
much anymore so s"ts ,i use
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be/ bet probably j 6get a new scann}4
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:15:13 -0500
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>Any validator can replace a book. When I validate replacement books I am
>very careful with checking whether it is a truly improved copy. I don't
>take the submitter's word that it is. I check for myself. I had a couple
>of instants that books were submitted as improved copies, but when I
>checked with K1000, they were significantly worse copies. So I rejected
>them. Others have been somewhat similar but I cleaned them up some, so
>they were better. And still others were the same and so I rejected them.
>Tiffany, as Julie said you can always resubmit your books or email
>bookshare about it. Because we should be improving the collection., not
>down grading it.
>Grace
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Petraccaro
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 1:48 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
> Who's responsible for judging the quality of a replacement. I've sent a
> few replacements, but they were usually for books that I was asked to do
> or of books I'd originally done and could now improve.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tiffany H. Jessen
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:13 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
> Yes, I get the letter of acceptance, then some time later, (sometimes
> even
> months later), I get a notice that my copy has been replaced by a
> superior
> quality. And yes, I use Kurzweil to rank the quality. It's not always
> a big
> difference, but in all of the cases so far they have been decreases in
> quality. After looking over the books more closely I suppose they
> could
> still be considered excellent shape, but they're more borderline where
> as
> mine were nearly perfect. Oh well...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:15 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>> Tiffany:
>> Do you actually receive an email telling you that your book has been
>> replaced?
>> That can be very frustrating especially if you feel that the book has
>> been
>> down graded, not improved.
>> K1000 is an excellent tool for comparing book quality. When you look at
>> the list of mispelling you get to see what type of errors it has.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tiffany H. Jessen" <tjessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:18 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>>> Oh no, I don't worry about a validater ranking my book as good if I
>>> think
>>> it is excellent. My concern is when I have a book approved in
>>> excellent,
>>> and then X amount of time later someone else scans that same book and
>>> has
>>> it approved as an excellent quality, when in fact it is lower than what
>>> I
>>> did. I wouldn't mind my book being replaced if it were in fact a
>>> superior
>>> quality, the objection is when it goes the other way around.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <pietruk@xxxxxxxxx
>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 6:58 AM
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanners' feelings
>>>> Tiff and Shelley
>>>> Perhaps it is age, I'm in my mid 50s, but I don't leg my ego
>>>> into the process worry8ing whether someone labels my excellent scan as
>>>> good, et al. At first, I thought it meant something; but as a
>>>> validator
>>>> myself, I realize that it's generally an arbitrary decision made by
>>>> another human being, and nothing more.
>>>> So if validator takes my excellent submission and believes it only to
>>>> be
>>>> good, what does it matter in the grand schemes of things?
>>>> As for Lissi's questions, Julie pretty much conveys my feelings.
>>>> And if a book sits too long on Step 1, as Cindy notes, I always have
>>>> the
>>>> option of self-validating which I did on a couple of Christmas books so
>>>> that they would make it into the collection for the Christmas reading
>>>> season.
>>>> As a validator myself, I get to know the work styles of submitters and
>>>> tend to validate those who do the work upfront so to speak.
>>>> So I quickly know what will need to be done, if anything, based on my
>>>> experience with their work as well as comments they supply.
>>>> I attempt for quick turn arounds and attempt to avoid knitpicking as,
>>>> with
>>>> over 600 books on Step 1, time is best spent on titles that frankly
>>>> don't
>>>> need much handholding.
>>>> I would only spend that time on Step 1 books that I believed were
>>>> special
>>>> to the collection amd might not be replacible.
>>>> Spending hours upon hours validating something, in most instances,
>>>> makes
>>>> little sense as rescanning it would be faster.
>>>> Keep in mind that 5 times the credits are given for submissions vs
>>>> validations which indicates where the effort ought to be placed in a
>>>> priority scheme.
>>>> Just some rambling thoughts which I doubt hold much significance. To
>>>> sum
>>>> up, a topnotch submission requires little from the validator beyond
>>>> spot
>>>> checking and verification. And once one learns the work habits and
>>>> tendecies of those they validate, the process becomes even more
>>>> streamlined.
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