Just as a note, with kurzweil you can change your scanner settings and
rerecognize individual or all pages without having to go through actually
rescanning a page. This is good not only for us who get our reading
materials from outside sources and don't have to reobtain the book, but it's
even good for us who don't have sighted assistance to find a page in the
book again in order to rescan it. I can remember those days of college where
I had to go back and find pages in textbooks because columns mode was on
when it should have been off or vice-versa and basically it was only an
option of randomly opening and estimating the number of pages to flip, scan,
and read the page number Hopefully at that point you were then close enough
to the page you wanted that you could count forward or backwards to the one
you wanted, or if not you would have to randomly jump a stack of pages
again, scan, and start all over. hopefully at some point you would find the
page you needed.
Not fun..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Cross" <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 7:31 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: norton
Well, when I submit books, I usually submit them in rtf, but I don't keep the rtf file. I keep the kes file I start with, because if I retrieve my books after they have been approved the stripping process limits their usefulness to me. So, the copy I have is kes, but it is really not very good, and as I am rescanning I am making numerous corrections. Ernie should have a relatively easy time validating, but the books are very large so the job isn't a small one.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 11:23 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: norton
That sounds like a good solution. Katie or Ernie can reject the one he or she has and you can re-submit and one of them can validate. I'll keep both volumes and renew when necesssary and then return and re-borrow as necessary.
Thank you Ken. Just to satisfy my curiosity, what did you do it in originally?
Cindy
--- Kenneth Cross <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am beginning to rescan it; unless someone objects,
I will make it a new
submission and it will be in rtf format. How do you
feel about that? I
have been out of touch because of a computer crash
which is not fixed.
----- Original Message ----- From: "k4zq" <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:31 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: norton
> Hi Kenneth,
>
> Don't know if you've been keeping up with what's
going on with the Norton,
> but Katie and I have been having a lot of trouble
trying to convert it
> into an rtf file.
>
> Personally, I think it needs a re-scanning, but, I
know how bloody long
> that thing is. So, it would be hard to do.
>
> I still have it out for validation, and I'll keep
it till you or Katie
> tell me what to do with it (within reason.)
>
> Peace,
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenneth Cross" <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 3:31 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: norton
>
>
>>I just got volume II and will scan it within the
next couple of days. My
>>computer has been down for a couple of days, so I
might have missed some
>>things about volume I. Is there anything anyone
wants me to do with
>>regard to that volume?
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:16 AM
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: norton
>>
>>
>>> Ernie,
>>>
>>> I'm glad you're a night owl--or should I say
morning
>>> dove.
>>>
>>> Kenneth said he's requested volume 2 of the same
>>> edition and will scan it, and I have the
book--though
>>> I will probably at some point have to return it
and
>>> then borrow it again--but that's no problem.
>>>
>>> Keeping books in txt causes them to lose fonts
like
>>> italics and also to lose hard page breaks. We
are now
>>> able to upload txt books converted to rtf, so
the
>>> best thing for you to do would be to convertyour
txt
>>> file to rtf and keep it that way. (Aren't you
glad you
>>> took this on and are learning so much about
>>> bookshare?) smile.
>>>
>>> Please don't lose your wonderful sense of humor.
With
>>> Guido gone from the list because he's too busy,
we
>>> only have you and Pratik, and maybe occasionally
>>> Gustavo, to make us chuckle or lol--and some
others
>>> occasionally, too, like Sue, I think.
>>>
>>> Of course the mere name Guglamesh, with or
without
>>> italics, makes me smile.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>> --- k4zq <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cindy, et al,
>>>>
>>>> This is my final statement on the Norton.
>>>>
>>>> First of all, Cindy, thanks for the missing
pages,
>>>> and for the offer of help in the future.
>>>>
>>>> I had rejected this book for what I thought
were
>>>> logical and legitimate reasons. Then, I was
asked
>>>> to re-submit the book and continue validating
it.
>>>>
>>>> Today on the list, I received some e-mails that
per
>>>> haps I mis-interpreted, but which deserve a
reply.
>>>>
>>>> I have not applied for any submission credits.
to
>>>> do so would have been dishonest, since whoever
>>>> scanned the book deserves full credit for
submitting
>>>> it. As for 50 cents credit for validating over
>>>> 2,000 pages, that's a damned insult, and I
wouldn't
>>>> accept it if it were offered to me. My time
isn't
>>>> that worthless. Either I'm doing this book out
of a
>>>> love of literature, or not at all. This amount
for
>>>> this much work is simply ridiculous, and not
worth
>>>> the trouble.
>>>>
>>>> Gerald, I must address you directly, since you
>>>> waited till after the book was re-submitted to
make
>>>> the statement that a rejection was not official
>>>> until Gustavo approved it. You'd have been of
much
>>>> more help if you had said so before I went to
the
>>>> trouble of re-submitting it, and been so good
as to
>>>> tell me where to retrieve the file.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy, again, I'm extremely grateful for your
offer
>>>> of continued help, for, I was going to say that
I
>>>> would validate the book with or without the
missing
>>>> pages, and let the chips fall where they may.
>>>> However, thanks to your generosity, that has
become
>>>> a moot point.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, Cindy, you're right, it does make
one
>>>> feel as though he (or she) is back in a college
lit
>>>> classroom.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, if someone scans and submits vol. II
of
>>>> this edition, I'll be happy to work on it,
since it
>>>> then will be a matched set. Otherwise, someone
else
>>>> can validate the copy of a later edition, then
hope
>>>> that vol. I of that edition is done.
>>>>
>>>> So, that's it, folks. Now, instead of wasting
my
>>>> time in fruitless discussion and veiled
accusation,
>>>> I am going to work on the book.
>>>>
>>>> Again, Cindy, thanks for the pages. I shall
paste
>>>> them in, and continue from there.
>>>>
>>>> Peace,
>>>>
>>>> Ernie
>>>>
>>>> Ps
>>>>
>>>> Cindy,
>>>>
>>>> The original file I have is in askiitxt format.
If
>>>> the rtf pages won't match, please send them to
me in
>>>> the matching format.
>>>> Ernie
>>>
>>>
>>>
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