Great suggestion Cindy.As I see it, there is no reason why an Ark, Kes, or Wyn (spelling again?) couldn't be translated by the originator to .rtf. Then any validator could work on their book.
Should be a hard fast rule. Bob (the dictator).----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Rosenthal" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Pavi Mehta" <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:17 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] format for submission?
Perhaps one change should be that all books must be submitted in rtf? There are so few people who can validate ARK and KES files, or Wynn? Can people who scan in those convert them to rtf before submitting or is that not possible? There are currently a lot of Ark, including the Krueger, and several Wynn and KES books on the download list, in case anyone who can validate in those formats is interested in taking a look. smileCindy the elderWISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS AVAILABLE AThttp://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:From: Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black belt validater? To: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>, bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:09 AM Thanks for ccing me directly Monica -- it definitely helps. This is absolutely great information to include in the manual -- especially because I've had to field questions along these lines for various new volunteers and it would save everyone's time and make so much sense to have it all outlined clearly in one place. Have added it to my growing pile of "edits and inclusions" Thanks all! Pavi -----Original Message----- From: Monica Willyard [mailto:rhyami@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 5:21 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Pavi Mehta Subject: Re: How to be a black belt validater? Bob, you bring up a good point here. I'm going to copy Pavi just in case she hasn't seen this message. I think this really needs to be included in the manual. We have lost several volunteers due to unclear specifications up front. For example, though almost all Windows users have access to WordPad, we can't use it for validating because it doesn't retain section breaks and doesn't show page breaks with speech. The latter problem could be solved by hiring a Jaws/Window Eyes scripter to make a script file that volunteers can download. The former problem, the one about section breaks, is a Microsoft issue we can't get around. I can only speak from a Windows perspective since I'm not familiar with the Mac or Linux. I would put the requirements this way in the manual. Validaters must have and use one of the following: Microsoft Word Kurzweil WordPerfect (if you have some sight since speech doesn't announce page breaks) Openbook Wyn Wizard A modern Pacmate or BrailleNote Open Office, (if you are sighted since speech doesn't work with this program) Validaters cannot use: An old notetaker like Braille Lite or Braille 'N' Speak (It doesn't retain page breaks at all) WordPad Notepad Windows Live Writer A text editor Monica Willyard _____ Bob Writes: Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black belt validater? This is an excellent suggestion Kaitlyn. I would like to see something about necessary tools and preferred tools. For example, is ms word a necessary tool? or is Kurzweil preferred over Openbook? Can a validator validate properly using only a notetaker? I realize that this would be a difficult section because we all, obviously, prefer the tools we have on hand, and the prices for adaptive technology prohibit us from buying a whole new bunch of tools just because it seems that these are the preferred method. However, a person couldn't validate using only a text editor with a spell checker because page numbers wouldn't be maintained. I suspect that most of the early books into the collection were submitted using only a text editor. However, if a new volunteer wanted to use a text editor to validate a book they'd be out of luck. Thanks. BobTo unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
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