Could you download them and convert them to rtf and resubmit them if the original submitter doesn't care, as she seems not to? I'm willing to validate, but I wouldn't be able to get to them for a while. I have four now, though one should be finished shortly--and I'm saving a space in my download limit for Identical when it's ready. Cindy WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS AVAILABLE AT http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Lori Castner <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Lori Castner <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: format for submission? > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 7:22 PM > Dear Cindy, > > I know that with Openbook files can be converted to .rtf > before submitting. > And I'm sure the same is true of .kes because so many > Kurzweil users > resubmit in .rtf. > > I sometime ago contacted the submitter of some of the .ark > books, including > Iron Lake, asking her to resubmit in .rtf. At that time > she indicated she > would, but obviously has not. > > I also contacted Pavi, explaining my concern about these > books, and she > indicated she would try to reach the submitter. > > It is certainly good to care about books that have been > submitted and to try > to get them all into the collection, but in regard to the > .ark books, I > think all have done what can be done. As they stand, some > of the books may > need to be rejected because of their quality. Maybe > I'll see what I can see > accept for the Kent Kreuger books; I cannot tolerate their > level of > violence. > > Cat Lover Lori > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy Rosenthal" > <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "Pavi Mehta" <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:17 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] format for submission? > > > > Perhaps one change should be that all books must be > submitted in rtf? > > There are so few people who can validate ARK and KES > files, or Wynn? Can > > people who scan in those convert them to rtf before > submitting or is that > > not possible? There are currently a lot of Ark, > including the Krueger, and > > several Wynn and KES books on the download list, in > case anyone who can > > validate in those formats is interested in taking a > look. smile > > > > Cindy the elder > > > > WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE > COLLECTION)IS > > AVAILABLE AT > > > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm > > www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm > > > > A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE > AT > > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/ > > www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm > > > > > > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Pavi Mehta > <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> From: Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black > belt validater? > >> To: "Monica Willyard" > <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>, bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:09 AM > >> Thanks for ccing me directly Monica -- it > definitely helps. > >> > >> This is absolutely great information to include in > the > >> manual -- especially because I've had to field > questions > >> along these lines for various new volunteers and > it would > >> save everyone's time and make so much sense to > have it > >> all outlined clearly in one place. Have added it > to my > >> growing pile of "edits and inclusions" > >> > >> Thanks all! > >> > >> Pavi > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Monica Willyard [mailto:rhyami@xxxxxxxxx] > >> Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 5:21 AM > >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Cc: Pavi Mehta > >> Subject: Re: How to be a black belt validater? > >> > >> Bob, you bring up a good point here. I'm going > to copy > >> Pavi just in case she > >> hasn't seen this message. I think this really > needs to > >> be included in the > >> manual. We have lost several volunteers due to > unclear > >> specifications up > >> front. For example, though almost all Windows > users have > >> access to WordPad, > >> we can't use it for validating because it > doesn't > >> retain section breaks and > >> doesn't show page breaks with speech. The > latter > >> problem could be solved by > >> hiring a Jaws/Window Eyes scripter to make a > script file > >> that volunteers can > >> download. The former problem, the one about > section breaks, > >> is a Microsoft > >> issue we can't get around. I can only speak > from a > >> Windows perspective since > >> I'm not familiar with the Mac or Linux. > >> > >> > >> > >> I would put the requirements this way in the > manual. > >> Validaters must have > >> and use one of the following: > >> > >> > >> > >> Microsoft Word > >> > >> Kurzweil > >> > >> WordPerfect (if you have some sight since speech > >> doesn't announce page > >> breaks) > >> > >> Openbook > >> > >> Wyn Wizard > >> > >> A modern Pacmate or BrailleNote > >> > >> Open Office, (if you are sighted since speech > doesn't > >> work with this > >> program) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Validaters cannot use: > >> > >> > >> > >> An old notetaker like Braille Lite or Braille > 'N' > >> Speak (It doesn't retain > >> page breaks at all) > >> > >> WordPad > >> > >> Notepad > >> > >> Windows Live Writer > >> > >> A text editor > >> > >> > >> > >> Monica Willyard > >> > >> _____ > >> > >> Bob Writes: > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black > belt > >> validater? > >> > >> > >> > >> This is an excellent suggestion Kaitlyn. > >> > >> > >> > >> I would like to see something about necessary > tools and > >> preferred tools. > >> > >> > >> > >> For example, is ms word a necessary tool? or is > Kurzweil > >> preferred over > >> Openbook? Can a validator validate properly using > only a > >> notetaker? > >> > >> > >> > >> I realize that this would be a difficult section > because we > >> all, obviously, > >> prefer the tools we have on hand, and the prices > for > >> adaptive technology > >> prohibit us from buying a whole new bunch of tools > just > >> because it seems > >> that these are the preferred method. > >> > >> > >> > >> However, a person couldn't validate using only > a text > >> editor with a spell > >> checker because page numbers wouldn't be > maintained. I > >> suspect that most of > >> the early books into the collection were submitted > using > >> only a text editor. > >> However, if a new volunteer wanted to use a text > editor to > >> validate a book > >> they'd be out of luck. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> Bob > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > subject line. 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