[bksvol-discuss] Re: format for submission?
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:25:50 -0800 (PST)
Could you download them and convert them to rtf and resubmit them if the
original submitter doesn't care, as she seems not to? I'm willing to validate,
but I wouldn't be able to get to them for a while. I have four now, though one
should be finished shortly--and I'm saving a space in my download limit for
Identical when it's ready.
Cindy
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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Lori Castner <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Lori Castner <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: format for submission?
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 7:22 PM
> Dear Cindy,
>
> I know that with Openbook files can be converted to .rtf
> before submitting.
> And I'm sure the same is true of .kes because so many
> Kurzweil users
> resubmit in .rtf.
>
> I sometime ago contacted the submitter of some of the .ark
> books, including
> Iron Lake, asking her to resubmit in .rtf. At that time
> she indicated she
> would, but obviously has not.
>
> I also contacted Pavi, explaining my concern about these
> books, and she
> indicated she would try to reach the submitter.
>
> It is certainly good to care about books that have been
> submitted and to try
> to get them all into the collection, but in regard to the
> .ark books, I
> think all have done what can be done. As they stand, some
> of the books may
> need to be rejected because of their quality. Maybe
> I'll see what I can see
> accept for the Kent Kreuger books; I cannot tolerate their
> level of
> violence.
>
> Cat Lover Lori
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Rosenthal"
> <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Pavi Mehta" <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:17 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] format for submission?
>
>
> > Perhaps one change should be that all books must be
> submitted in rtf?
> > There are so few people who can validate ARK and KES
> files, or Wynn? Can
> > people who scan in those convert them to rtf before
> submitting or is that
> > not possible? There are currently a lot of Ark,
> including the Krueger, and
> > several Wynn and KES books on the download list, in
> case anyone who can
> > validate in those formats is interested in taking a
> look. smile
> >
> > Cindy the elder
> >
> > WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE
> COLLECTION)IS
> > AVAILABLE AT
> >
> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm
> > www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm
> >
> > A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE
> AT
> > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
> > www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Pavi Mehta
> <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black
> belt validater?
> >> To: "Monica Willyard"
> <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>, bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:09 AM
> >> Thanks for ccing me directly Monica -- it
> definitely helps.
> >>
> >> This is absolutely great information to include in
> the
> >> manual -- especially because I've had to field
> questions
> >> along these lines for various new volunteers and
> it would
> >> save everyone's time and make so much sense to
> have it
> >> all outlined clearly in one place. Have added it
> to my
> >> growing pile of "edits and inclusions"
> >>
> >> Thanks all!
> >>
> >> Pavi
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Monica Willyard [mailto:rhyami@xxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 5:21 AM
> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Cc: Pavi Mehta
> >> Subject: Re: How to be a black belt validater?
> >>
> >> Bob, you bring up a good point here. I'm going
> to copy
> >> Pavi just in case she
> >> hasn't seen this message. I think this really
> needs to
> >> be included in the
> >> manual. We have lost several volunteers due to
> unclear
> >> specifications up
> >> front. For example, though almost all Windows
> users have
> >> access to WordPad,
> >> we can't use it for validating because it
> doesn't
> >> retain section breaks and
> >> doesn't show page breaks with speech. The
> latter
> >> problem could be solved by
> >> hiring a Jaws/Window Eyes scripter to make a
> script file
> >> that volunteers can
> >> download. The former problem, the one about
> section breaks,
> >> is a Microsoft
> >> issue we can't get around. I can only speak
> from a
> >> Windows perspective since
> >> I'm not familiar with the Mac or Linux.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would put the requirements this way in the
> manual.
> >> Validaters must have
> >> and use one of the following:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Microsoft Word
> >>
> >> Kurzweil
> >>
> >> WordPerfect (if you have some sight since speech
> >> doesn't announce page
> >> breaks)
> >>
> >> Openbook
> >>
> >> Wyn Wizard
> >>
> >> A modern Pacmate or BrailleNote
> >>
> >> Open Office, (if you are sighted since speech
> doesn't
> >> work with this
> >> program)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Validaters cannot use:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> An old notetaker like Braille Lite or Braille
> 'N'
> >> Speak (It doesn't retain
> >> page breaks at all)
> >>
> >> WordPad
> >>
> >> Notepad
> >>
> >> Windows Live Writer
> >>
> >> A text editor
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Monica Willyard
> >>
> >> _____
> >>
> >> Bob Writes:
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black
> belt
> >> validater?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is an excellent suggestion Kaitlyn.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would like to see something about necessary
> tools and
> >> preferred tools.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For example, is ms word a necessary tool? or is
> Kurzweil
> >> preferred over
> >> Openbook? Can a validator validate properly using
> only a
> >> notetaker?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I realize that this would be a difficult section
> because we
> >> all, obviously,
> >> prefer the tools we have on hand, and the prices
> for
> >> adaptive technology
> >> prohibit us from buying a whole new bunch of tools
> just
> >> because it seems
> >> that these are the preferred method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> However, a person couldn't validate using only
> a text
> >> editor with a spell
> >> checker because page numbers wouldn't be
> maintained. I
> >> suspect that most of
> >> the early books into the collection were submitted
> using
> >> only a text editor.
> >> However, if a new volunteer wanted to use a text
> editor to
> >> validate a book
> >> they'd be out of luck.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> >
> >
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