[bksvol-discuss] Re: format for submission?

  • From: "My Nickels Worth" <lavendar@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:39:46 -0500

It is totally possible to convert a book from .kes to.rtf before submitting
it for step one.

I am trying to grab the .kes books for the next little while when I
validate.

Cait


-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Rosenthal
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:18 PM
To: Pavi Mehta; bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] format for submission?


Perhaps one change should be that all books must be submitted in rtf? There
are so few people who can validate ARK and KES files, or Wynn? Can people
who scan in those convert them to rtf before submitting or is that not
possible? There are currently a lot of Ark, including the Krueger, and
several Wynn and KES books on the download list, in case anyone who can
validate in those formats is interested in taking a look. smile

Cindy the elder

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--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black belt validater?
> To: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>, bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:09 AM
> Thanks for ccing me directly Monica -- it definitely helps.
> 
> This is absolutely great information to include in the
> manual -- especially because I've had to field questions along these 
> lines for various new volunteers and it would save everyone's time and 
> make so much sense to have it all outlined clearly in one place. Have 
> added it to my growing pile of "edits and inclusions"
> 
> Thanks all!
> 
> Pavi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Monica Willyard [mailto:rhyami@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 5:21 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Pavi Mehta
> Subject: Re: How to be a black belt validater?
>  
> Bob, you bring up a good point here. I'm going to copy
> Pavi just in case she
> hasn't seen this message. I think this really needs to
> be included in the
> manual. We have lost several volunteers due to unclear specifications 
> up front. For example, though almost all Windows users have
> access to WordPad,
> we can't use it for validating because it doesn't
> retain section breaks and
> doesn't show page breaks with speech. The latter
> problem could be solved by
> hiring a Jaws/Window Eyes scripter to make a script file
> that volunteers can
> download. The former problem, the one about section breaks,
> is a Microsoft
> issue we can't get around. I can only speak from a
> Windows perspective since
> I'm not familiar with the Mac or Linux.
> 
>  
> 
> I would put the requirements this way in the manual. Validaters must 
> have and use one of the following:
> 
>  
> 
> Microsoft Word
> 
> Kurzweil
> 
> WordPerfect (if you have some sight since speech
> doesn't announce page
> breaks)
> 
> Openbook
> 
> Wyn Wizard
> 
> A modern Pacmate or BrailleNote
> 
> Open Office, (if you are sighted since speech doesn't
> work with this
> program)
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Validaters cannot use:
> 
>  
> 
> An old notetaker like Braille Lite or Braille 'N'
> Speak (It doesn't retain
> page breaks at all)
> 
> WordPad
> 
> Notepad
> 
> Windows Live Writer
> 
> A text editor
> 
>  
> 
> Monica Willyard
> 
>   _____
> 
> Bob Writes:
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black belt validater?
> 
>  
> 
> This is an excellent suggestion Kaitlyn.
> 
>  
> 
> I would like to see something about necessary tools and preferred 
> tools.
> 
>  
> 
> For example, is ms word a necessary tool? or is Kurzweil preferred 
> over Openbook? Can a validator validate properly using only a
> notetaker?
> 
>  
> 
> I realize that this would be a difficult section because we all, 
> obviously, prefer the tools we have on hand, and the prices for
> adaptive technology
> prohibit us from buying a whole new bunch of tools just
> because it seems
> that these are the preferred method.
> 
>  
> 
> However, a person couldn't validate using only a text
> editor with a spell
> checker because page numbers wouldn't be maintained. I suspect that 
> most of the early books into the collection were submitted using
> only a text editor.
> However, if a new volunteer wanted to use a text editor to
> validate a book
> they'd be out of luck.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bob


      
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