But I thought you said you moved the numbers of the footnotes. I truly apologize if I got all this wrong.
Elizabeth At 04:17 AM 9/17/2007, you wrote:
Sorry, Elizabeth. I don't understand what you mean. I don't move footnotes--I keep them where they are in the book and the scan--if they appear in the scan. I've noticed a lot of times they don't scan and I have to put them in. In going back to look at the books I've done, it's only been recently that I learned about, and then have started to, put the footnote numbers on the line with the sentence. Before that I superscripted them. Cindy --- "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Cindy, please be careful making up rules like this. > New folks may > believe you really mean it about moving footnotes > and putting comas > between them. > > At 12:27 AM 9/17/2007, you wrote: > >You put both numbers, with a comma between them. > smile > > > >Cindy > > > > > Besides, you could have more than one footnote > > > number in a single sentence. > > > Then what? > > > > > > Evan > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:21 PM > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and > > > subscript > > > > > > > > > >I have done that at times, but then at some > point > > > some > > > > readers said that it was too difficult to read > and > > > > could be just put the footnote number at the > end > > > of > > > > the sentence without parentheses. Perhaps > that's > > > > something that should be added to the manual > if it > > > > isn't already there. > > > > > > > > I just checked the copy I downloaded and it > isn't, > > > so > > > > I'll write to Lisa. I don't see it in Tips on > > > Jake's > > > > site, either. > > > > > > > > Cindy > > > > > > > > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > >> I am looking into what the Braille translator > > > does > > > >> with them directly. The > > > >> one instance I found in a book I submitted > came > > > out > > > >> rather strangely, > > > >> although it is still recognizable as a > > > superscript. > > > >> For Braille readers, it > > > >> says: and-sign sup-number sign 2, followed > > > >> immediately by the number 20 in > > > >> Nemeth code. But someone with whom I often > work > > > says > > > >> that she adds > > > >> superscripts regularly for notes, so it looks > as > > > it > > > >> does in the print book. > > > >> We're going to try to look at some examples > today > > > if > > > >> possible and see what > > > >> they look like in the brf versions. I have > been > > > >> simply going on what I have > > > >> read here, so I want to find out directly. > That > > > one > > > >> example is not enough to > > > >> go on. > > > >> > > > >> I'll report back today or tomorrow on what I > have > > > >> found. > > > >> > > > >> Evan > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Grandma Cindy" > <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:20 AM > > > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and > > > >> subscript > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Good idea!! I hope I remember it, because > it's > > > >> much > > > >> > easier to do that then fix them one at a > rime > > > as > > > >> I've > > > >> > been doing. smile Thanks, Evan. > > > >> > > > > >> > Cindy > > > >> > > > > >> > P.S. I'll bet that will also work for > raised > > > and > > > >> > lowered letters that I've been putting back > to > > > >> normal > > > >> > one incident at a time. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >> Another thing I just thought of is that > she > > > could > > > >> >> select the whole text and > > > >> >> if any of the text is super- or > subscripted, > > > it > > > >> will > > > >> >> say so in the Font > > > >> >> dialogue box in Word. Then she can just > > > uncheck > > > >> >> either or both of them and > > > >> >> desuperscript and desubscript everything. > They > > > >> >> should be removed because the > > > >> >> Braille translator does not handle them > well, > > > if > > > >> at > > > >> >> all. I forget what > > > >> >> happens exactly, but they will definitely > not > > > >> appear > > > >> >> as they should in the > > > >> >> Braille version. I can't speak to the > Daisy > > > >> version. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Evan > > > >> >> > > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> >> From: "Grandma Cindy" > <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > > >> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > >> >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 12:16 > PM > > > >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript > and > > > >> >> subscript > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Monica, > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > I'm curious as to how superscript reads > in > > > >> Jaws. > > > >> >> In > > > >> >> > the sentence in the page Terra sent me > to > > > look > > > >> at, > > > >> >> the > > > >> >> > letters e a r in the word year were in > > > >> subscript, > > > >> >> > i.e., small and raised above the line, > as > > > >> >> footnotes > > > >> >> > often are in books. People have written > here > > > >> that > > > >> >> they > > > >> >> > prefer to have footnote numbers written > on > > > the > > > >> >> line > > > >> >> > after the period in the sentence, and > > > without > > > >> >> > parentheses (all this detail for > newbies) so > > > I > > > >> >> assume > > > >> >> > that superscript numbers are read > > > differently > > > >> in > > > >> >> Jaws > > > >> >> > or braille or both. How would parts of a > > > word > > > >> >> read? > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > I will say, for Terra, she's persistent > and > > > >> >> > courageous. This is only her second > > > validation > > > >> >> effort, > > > >> >> > and based on the page she sent me, there > are > > > >> lots > > > >> >> of > > > >> >> > different kinds of problems. She's going > to > > > >> learn > > > >> >> a > > > >> >> > lot from this one book. smile > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Cindy > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > Cindy > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > --- Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >> Hi, Terra. Now that's a question I've > never > > > >> been > > > >> >> >> asked. I don't have a > > > >> >> >> clue, and I'm not sure it matters in > the > > > final > > > >> >> >> product since a lot of > > > >> >> >> extra formatting is stripped out. For > > > example, > > > >> >> all > > > >> >> >> tabs are removed. I > > > >> >> >> know they keep the bold text attribute, > but > > > I > > > >> >> have > > > >> >> >> no idea what they do > > > >> >> >> with things like fonts or italics in > text. > > > I > > > >> just > > > >> >> >> proofread the document > > > >> >> >> for accuracy and let the Bookshare > tools > > > sort > > > >> out > > > >> >> >> things like fonts > > > >> >> >> unless the book is in a giant font that > > > Jaws > > > >> >> can't > > > >> >> >> read. Then I select > > > >> >> >> all text and adjust it to 16 point > Times > > > New > > > >> >> Roman > > > >> >> >> and keep moving. Jaws > > > >> >> >> can't read text in a font size of > somewhere > > > >> >> around > > > >> >> >> 32 or larger, so that > > > >> >> >> forces me to adjust the font size. > Other > > > than > > > >> >> that, > > > >> >> >> I figure I have > > > >> >> >> enough trouble proofreading the text > > > without > > > >> >> trying > > > >> >> >> to sort out how the > > > >> >> >> text appears on the screen. 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