[bksvol-discuss] footnote number locations
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:27:10 -0700 (PDT)
You put both numbers, with a comma between them. smile
Cindy
> Besides, you could have more than one footnote
> number in a single sentence.
> Then what?
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:21 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and
> subscript
>
>
> >I have done that at times, but then at some point
> some
> > readers said that it was too difficult to read and
> > could be just put the footnote number at the end
> of
> > the sentence without parentheses. Perhaps that's
> > something that should be added to the manual if it
> > isn't already there.
> >
> > I just checked the copy I downloaded and it isn't,
> so
> > I'll write to Lisa. I don't see it in Tips on
> Jake's
> > site, either.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> I am looking into what the Braille translator
> does
> >> with them directly. The
> >> one instance I found in a book I submitted came
> out
> >> rather strangely,
> >> although it is still recognizable as a
> superscript.
> >> For Braille readers, it
> >> says: and-sign sup-number sign 2, followed
> >> immediately by the number 20 in
> >> Nemeth code. But someone with whom I often work
> says
> >> that she adds
> >> superscripts regularly for notes, so it looks as
> it
> >> does in the print book.
> >> We're going to try to look at some examples today
> if
> >> possible and see what
> >> they look like in the brf versions. I have been
> >> simply going on what I have
> >> read here, so I want to find out directly. That
> one
> >> example is not enough to
> >> go on.
> >>
> >> I'll report back today or tomorrow on what I have
> >> found.
> >>
> >> Evan
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:20 AM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and
> >> subscript
> >>
> >>
> >> > Good idea!! I hope I remember it, because it's
> >> much
> >> > easier to do that then fix them one at a rime
> as
> >> I've
> >> > been doing. smile Thanks, Evan.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy
> >> >
> >> > P.S. I'll bet that will also work for raised
> and
> >> > lowered letters that I've been putting back to
> >> normal
> >> > one incident at a time.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Another thing I just thought of is that she
> could
> >> >> select the whole text and
> >> >> if any of the text is super- or subscripted,
> it
> >> will
> >> >> say so in the Font
> >> >> dialogue box in Word. Then she can just
> uncheck
> >> >> either or both of them and
> >> >> desuperscript and desubscript everything. They
> >> >> should be removed because the
> >> >> Braille translator does not handle them well,
> if
> >> at
> >> >> all. I forget what
> >> >> happens exactly, but they will definitely not
> >> appear
> >> >> as they should in the
> >> >> Braille version. I can't speak to the Daisy
> >> version.
> >> >>
> >> >> Evan
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 12:16 PM
> >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and
> >> >> subscript
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Monica,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm curious as to how superscript reads in
> >> Jaws.
> >> >> In
> >> >> > the sentence in the page Terra sent me to
> look
> >> at,
> >> >> the
> >> >> > letters e a r in the word year were in
> >> subscript,
> >> >> > i.e., small and raised above the line, as
> >> >> footnotes
> >> >> > often are in books. People have written here
> >> that
> >> >> they
> >> >> > prefer to have footnote numbers written on
> the
> >> >> line
> >> >> > after the period in the sentence, and
> without
> >> >> > parentheses (all this detail for newbies) so
> I
> >> >> assume
> >> >> > that superscript numbers are read
> differently
> >> in
> >> >> Jaws
> >> >> > or braille or both. How would parts of a
> word
> >> >> read?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I will say, for Terra, she's persistent and
> >> >> > courageous. This is only her second
> validation
> >> >> effort,
> >> >> > and based on the page she sent me, there are
> >> lots
> >> >> of
> >> >> > different kinds of problems. She's going to
> >> learn
> >> >> a
> >> >> > lot from this one book. smile
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cindy
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cindy
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi, Terra. Now that's a question I've never
> >> been
> >> >> >> asked. I don't have a
> >> >> >> clue, and I'm not sure it matters in the
> final
> >> >> >> product since a lot of
> >> >> >> extra formatting is stripped out. For
> example,
> >> >> all
> >> >> >> tabs are removed. I
> >> >> >> know they keep the bold text attribute, but
> I
> >> >> have
> >> >> >> no idea what they do
> >> >> >> with things like fonts or italics in text.
> I
> >> just
> >> >> >> proofread the document
> >> >> >> for accuracy and let the Bookshare tools
> sort
> >> out
> >> >> >> things like fonts
> >> >> >> unless the book is in a giant font that
> Jaws
> >> >> can't
> >> >> >> read. Then I select
> >> >> >> all text and adjust it to 16 point Times
> New
> >> >> Roman
> >> >> >> and keep moving. Jaws
> >> >> >> can't read text in a font size of somewhere
> >> >> around
> >> >> >> 32 or larger, so that
> >> >> >> forces me to adjust the font size. Other
> than
> >> >> that,
> >> >> >> I figure I have
> >> >> >> enough trouble proofreading the text
> without
> >> >> trying
> >> >> >> to sort out how the
> >> >> >> text appears on the screen. Maybe someone
> else
> >> >> here
> >> >> >> has a better idea of
> >> >> >> how to help you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Monica Willyard
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Terra Syslo wrote:
> >> >> >> > Does anyone know how to tell in jaws with
> >> word
> >> >> if
> >> >> >> something is superscript
> >> >> >> > or subscript and how to take that out?
> Sorry
> >> >> for
> >> >> >> all the questions, I just
> >> >> >> > want to make sure I'm getting everything
> >> right
> >> >> >> with this book.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
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