Sorry, but I think it's a bad idea. That's too much tampering. I understand and agree with moving certain things such as sidebars and picture captions that appear in the middle of a sentence for Braille and speech readers. But those numbers are put beside the words they are put beside for a reason, not simply - as is usually the case in sidebars and such - because it fits the page better or looks better. I think they shouldn't be moved.
Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] footnote number locations
You put both numbers, with a comma between them. smile CindyBesides, you could have more than one footnote number in a single sentence. Then what? Evan----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and subscript >I have done that at times, but then at some point some > readers said that it was too difficult to read and > could be just put the footnote number at the end of > the sentence without parentheses. Perhaps that's > something that should be added to the manual if it > isn't already there. > > I just checked the copy I downloaded and it isn't, so > I'll write to Lisa. I don't see it in Tips on Jake's > site, either. > > Cindy > > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I am looking into what the Braille translator does >> with them directly. The >> one instance I found in a book I submitted came out >> rather strangely, >> although it is still recognizable as a superscript. >> For Braille readers, it >> says: and-sign sup-number sign 2, followed >> immediately by the number 20 in >> Nemeth code. But someone with whom I often work says >> that she adds >> superscripts regularly for notes, so it looks as it >> does in the print book. >> We're going to try to look at some examples today if >> possible and see what >> they look like in the brf versions. I have been >> simply going on what I have >> read here, so I want to find out directly. That one >> example is not enough to >> go on. >> >> I'll report back today or tomorrow on what I have >> found. >> >> Evan >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:20 AM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and >> subscript >> >> >> > Good idea!! I hope I remember it, because it's >> much >> > easier to do that then fix them one at a rime as >> I've >> > been doing. smile Thanks, Evan. >> > >> > Cindy >> > >> > P.S. I'll bet that will also work for raised and >> > lowered letters that I've been putting back to >> normal >> > one incident at a time. >> > >> > >> > --- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > >> >> Another thing I just thought of is that she could >> >> select the whole text and >> >> if any of the text is super- or subscripted, it >> will >> >> say so in the Font >> >> dialogue box in Word. Then she can just uncheck >> >> either or both of them and >> >> desuperscript and desubscript everything. They >> >> should be removed because the >> >> Braille translator does not handle them well, if >> at >> >> all. I forget what >> >> happens exactly, but they will definitely not >> appear >> >> as they should in the >> >> Braille version. I can't speak to the Daisy >> version. >> >> >> >> Evan >> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>>> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 12:16 PM >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: superscript and >> >> subscript >> >> >> >> >> >> > Monica, >> >> > >> >> > I'm curious as to how superscript reads in >> Jaws. >> >> In >> >> > the sentence in the page Terra sent me to look >> at, >> >> the >> >> > letters e a r in the word year were in >> subscript, >> >> > i.e., small and raised above the line, as >> >> footnotes >> >> > often are in books. People have written here >> that >> >> they >> >> > prefer to have footnote numbers written on the >> >> line >> >> > after the period in the sentence, and without >> >> > parentheses (all this detail for newbies) so I >> >> assume >> >> > that superscript numbers are read differently >> in >> >> Jaws >> >> > or braille or both. How would parts of a word >> >> read? >> >> > >> >> > I will say, for Terra, she's persistent and >> >> > courageous. This is only her second validation >> >> effort, >> >> > and based on the page she sent me, there are >> lots >> >> of >> >> > different kinds of problems. She's going to >> learn >> >> a >> >> > lot from this one book. smile >> >> > >> >> > Cindy >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Cindy >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > --- Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi, Terra. Now that's a question I've never >> been >> >> >> asked. I don't have a >> >> >> clue, and I'm not sure it matters in the final >> >> >> product since a lot of >> >> >> extra formatting is stripped out. For example, >> >> all >> >> >> tabs are removed. I >> >> >> know they keep the bold text attribute, but I >> >> have >> >> >> no idea what they do >> >> >> with things like fonts or italics in text. I >> just >> >> >> proofread the document >> >> >> for accuracy and let the Bookshare tools sort >> out >> >> >> things like fonts >> >> >> unless the book is in a giant font that Jaws >> >> can't >> >> >> read. Then I select >> >> >> all text and adjust it to 16 point Times New >> >> Roman >> >> >> and keep moving. Jaws >> >> >> can't read text in a font size of somewhere >> >> around >> >> >> 32 or larger, so that >> >> >> forces me to adjust the font size. Other than >> >> that, >> >> >> I figure I have >> >> >> enough trouble proofreading the text without >> >> trying >> >> >> to sort out how the >> >> >> text appears on the screen. Maybe someone else >> >> here >> >> >> has a better idea of >> >> >> how to help you. >> >> >> >> >> >> Monica Willyard >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Terra Syslo wrote: >> >> >> > Does anyone know how to tell in jaws with >> word >> >> if >> >> >> something is superscript >> >> >> > or subscript and how to take that out? 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