[bksvol-discuss] Re: double column formatting

  • From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:00:57 -0500

Evan,

So long as you use the "identify columns" feature (Settings/recognition),
yK1K will take care of column positions.  You won't need to wory about it.

Pratik


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:17 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double column formatting

Hey, Pratik, I am going to be starting a book that has a section with three 
columns on each page.  What happens to pages that are so long when the 
Bookshare processing gets hold of them?  Can I just put the columns end to 
end as you describe here for three of them?  Well, K1000 will probably - 
should probably - just do that anyhow; so should I just leave it like that?

Thanks.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 3:35 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: double column formatting


> Lissi,
>
> The trouble with this method, especially when submitting a book, is that 
> you
> then end up having more pages in a book than warranted.  Unless you only 
> do
> this for your personal use, you should follow a slightly modified method 
> of
> just putting the second column at the bottom of the first column and let 
> the
> page continue.
>
> Pratik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Estelnalissi
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:13 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] double column formatting
>
> Dear Bookshare Volunteers,
>
> My solution for dealing with indices and pages with long double columns is
> to put each column on a new page and to label the pages a and b. If page 
> 364
>
> is a glossary with 2 columns I label the page with the first column 364a 
> and
>
> at the end of that column put in a page break. I label the next page 364b
> and then put in the second column flush with the left margin as I did the
> first. That way, I don't get overlong pages and numerically the pages 
> remain
>
> true to the text and best of all, I don't have to worry about how to 
> format
> the second column. When I've tried putting the 2 columns in a table,
> navigating  as I validate is clumsy because I really don't know how to 
> make
> the cursor move between columns.
>
> My solution is as low tech as it gets with Microsoft word but it gets me
> through those long academic appendices, letting me concentrate on the
> accuracy of the content more than formatting. From my point of view as a
> braille Bookshare reader as well as a validator, this method is
> uncomplicated, and easy to negotiate in a brf file.
>
> Cindy, if I get caught up enough in my reading and validating, I'll let 
> you
> know how your columns appear in the braille file of 100 Women who Shaped
> World History, but even if they're scrambled, I'm sure the text will be
> terrific and pleasant, informative, reading.
>
> The double columned contents of, The Devil and the Giro, which I recently
> finished validating, appeared in a table, and out of curiosity, I left  it
> that way. I'll be curious to see if the tools morphed the table in to some
> different arrangement. There again, if the contents are muddled, the 
> stories
>
> will still be in tact.
>
> I hope any of you who have a different approach for formatting double
> columns or who have read books in the collection which have them will tell
> us what you do or how the columns look to you as braille or audio readers.
>
> Always with love,
>
> Lissi
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:32 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] columns question
>
>
>>
>> I know how to create columns on page using Word. Are
>> they retained when bookshare converts the books? When
>> viewing the page in Page Layout the page appears in
>> two columns, as it should, but only as one long column
>> with the continuous section break in the other View
>> options.
>>
>> A couple of years ago when I had to create columns for
>> a Table of Contents to Fit on a page, and some pages,
>> I did it using tabs, so the book must look awful. I
>> didn't know tabs got erased. I could redo the book
>> with the columns that the book itself had if columns
>> are retained.
>>
>> Has anyone downloaded 100 Women Who Shaped World
>> History from the collection? It's a wonderful
>> reference book for both children and adults. Does it
>> need reformatting when I get the chance?
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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