[bksvol-discuss] Re: double column formatting

Hey, Pratik, I am going to be starting a book that has a section with three columns on each page. What happens to pages that are so long when the Bookshare processing gets hold of them? Can I just put the columns end to end as you describe here for three of them? Well, K1000 will probably - should probably - just do that anyhow; so should I just leave it like that? 

Thanks.

Evan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Lissi,
The trouble with this method, especially when submitting a book, is that you then end up having more pages in a book than warranted. Unless you only do this for your personal use, you should follow a slightly modified method of just putting the second column at the bottom of the first column and let the 
page continue.

Pratik


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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:13 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] double column formatting

Dear Bookshare Volunteers,

My solution for dealing with indices and pages with long double columns is
to put each column on a new page and to label the pages a and b. If page 364
is a glossary with 2 columns I label the page with the first column 364a and 

at the end of that column put in a page break. I label the next page 364b
and then put in the second column flush with the left margin as I did the
first. That way, I don't get overlong pages and numerically the pages remain
true to the text and best of all, I don't have to worry about how to format 
the second column. When I've tried putting the 2 columns in a table,
navigating as I validate is clumsy because I really don't know how to make 
the cursor move between columns.

My solution is as low tech as it gets with Microsoft word but it gets me
through those long academic appendices, letting me concentrate on the
accuracy of the content more than formatting. From my point of view as a
braille Bookshare reader as well as a validator, this method is
uncomplicated, and easy to negotiate in a brf file.
Cindy, if I get caught up enough in my reading and validating, I'll let you 
know how your columns appear in the braille file of 100 Women who Shaped
World History, but even if they're scrambled, I'm sure the text will be
terrific and pleasant, informative, reading.

The double columned contents of, The Devil and the Giro, which I recently
finished validating, appeared in a table, and out of curiosity, I left  it
that way. I'll be curious to see if the tools morphed the table in to some
different arrangement. There again, if the contents are muddled, the stories 

will still be in tact.

I hope any of you who have a different approach for formatting double
columns or who have read books in the collection which have them will tell
us what you do or how the columns look to you as braille or audio readers.

Always with love,

Lissi
----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:32 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] columns question




I know how to create columns on page using Word. Are
they retained when bookshare converts the books? When
viewing the page in Page Layout the page appears in
two columns, as it should, but only as one long column
with the continuous section break in the other View
options.

A couple of years ago when I had to create columns for
a Table of Contents to Fit on a page, and some pages,
I did it using tabs, so the book must look awful. I
didn't know tabs got erased. I could redo the book
with the columns that the book itself had if columns
are retained.

Has anyone downloaded 100 Women Who Shaped World
History from the collection? It's a wonderful
reference book for both children and adults. Does it
need reformatting when I get the chance?

Cindy





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