The lower case Y and lower case g could be confused. Both have a "tail pointing down, and depending on the font, the y and g both have a "cup" ontop of the tail. The difference is the G is closed into a circule while the y is left open. Let me think, hmmm, how would you describe that in braille. Smile. hmmm. well, I don't think there is a way, smile. But I hope this helps, smile. There was a couple of guys who created a system for teaching print letters using the braille sell, I shall have to dig it up. Oh, wait. O.k. smile, imagine the braille cell. A y, would be dots 1, connected to 2, and a line going from 2 to 5, and then a like connecting 4, 5, 6. The g would be a box, made of dogs 1, 2, 4, 5 all connected, and then a line going down from 5, to 6. Smile. visualation aside, but that is the difference between a lower case g and y. I learned print, and read print all the way up to two years ago, in come compasity or another, am now a full time braille reader, and do miss the "little things" I could do myself, in print. But hey you get the cards you are dealt. And there are positives to this blindness thing I am learning, not seing the Burger King commercial for the Chicken Baccon Cheddar Ranch, or so my parents says is quite a blessing, smile. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner ----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:48 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Upload I finally got mine up. Didn't do anythinng different, just tried again. Here's a scanno I haven't seen. In the book I just uploaded called "The Memory Bible" the letter y was almost always g, as in memorg, glossarg, the author's first name Garg or Yrag. <lol> Do I am wondering if y and g look anything alike. Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Upload That is sometimes the only thing I have found to work, smile. Was validating a book and said that my long synopsis was too long. How, I can't tell, because it made it through the first submission just fine, so can't figure that one. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. -- Vance Havner ----- Original Message ----- From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 6:07 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Upload Well, I'm having "that problem" now even though I have used all the tips we know. It keeps saying "this is not a valid RTF file", but dammit, IT IS!! <smile> Guess I'll try later. Sue S. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 3/9/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005