[bksvol-discuss] Re: Submission formats, conversions & a request.

  • From: "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:14:14 -0800

Pavi,

I was going to convert the touch and blindness book to .rtf, but it is not .ark, but a new openbook format. Someone with Openbook 8 will need to convert this file.

Sorry I can't help.

Cat Lover Lori

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pavi Mehta" <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:20 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Submission formats, conversions & a request.


Hi All,

Requiring RTF as a submission format was a suggestion from the list (that came up awhile ago) that I passed on to engineering, and I'm happy to share that it will be implemented with the new site. In terms of converting to RTF the books currently on the download list in ARK & KES formats: volunteers who have the capability and are willing to do the conversion can download the book, convert and upload it with a note in the comment section indicating that it has been converted and needs to be returned to the download list for validation. Carrie or I will then return it to the download list.

We have the capability in-house to carry out the KES to RTF conversion, but at this point cannot convert the ARK files to RTF. If there is a particular book you would like to have us convert from KES to RTF please send me the title and author name.

FYI I converted A Cold Christmas by Charlene Weir from KES to RTF and returned it to the download list today. Another title that I went in to convert was: L'ENFANT'S LEGACY : Public Open Spaces in Washington, D.C by Michael Bednar the file is listed as a KES file but when I downloaded and opened it I discovered it was actually an RTF. Unfortunately we don't have a way of editing the file type field. I have returned it to the download list with a note in the comment section about the actual file type.

Also: I received a request from a member who is interested in validating "Touch and Blindness: Psychology and Neuroscience" a set of technical papers in ARK format on the download list. She would like to have it in RTF format. If there's someone willing to do the conversion on that that would be great!

All good things,
Pavi


Pavi Mehta
Volunteer Coordinator, Bookshare

Benetech
480 S. California Ave., Suite 201
Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609 USA
Phone: +1 650 644-3459

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-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:35 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: format for submission?

Great suggestion Cindy.

As I see it, there is no reason why an Ark, Kes, or Wyn (spelling again?)
couldn't be translated by the originator to .rtf. Then any validator could
work on their book.

Should be a hard fast rule.

Bob (the dictator).
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Rosenthal" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Pavi Mehta" <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:17 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] format for submission?


Perhaps one change should be that all books must be submitted in rtf?
There are so few people who can validate ARK and KES files, or Wynn? Can
people who scan in those convert them to rtf before submitting or is that
not possible? There are currently a lot of Ark, including the Krueger, and
several Wynn and KES books on the download list, in case anyone who can
validate in those formats is interested in taking a look. smile

Cindy the elder

WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS
AVAILABLE AT
http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm
www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm

A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT
http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm


--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black belt validater?
To: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>, bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:09 AM
Thanks for ccing me directly Monica -- it definitely helps.

This is absolutely great information to include in the
manual -- especially because I've had to field questions
along these lines for various new volunteers and it would
save everyone's time and make so much sense to have it
all outlined clearly in one place. Have added it to my
growing pile of "edits and inclusions"

Thanks all!

Pavi
-----Original Message-----
From: Monica Willyard [mailto:rhyami@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 5:21 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Pavi Mehta
Subject: Re: How to be a black belt validater?

Bob, you bring up a good point here. I'm going to copy
Pavi just in case she
hasn't seen this message. I think this really needs to
be included in the
manual. We have lost several volunteers due to unclear
specifications up
front. For example, though almost all Windows users have
access to WordPad,
we can't use it for validating because it doesn't
retain section breaks and
doesn't show page breaks with speech. The latter
problem could be solved by
hiring a Jaws/Window Eyes scripter to make a script file
that volunteers can
download. The former problem, the one about section breaks,
is a Microsoft
issue we can't get around. I can only speak from a
Windows perspective since
I'm not familiar with the Mac or Linux.



I would put the requirements this way in the manual.
Validaters must have
and use one of the following:



Microsoft Word

Kurzweil

WordPerfect (if you have some sight since speech
doesn't announce page
breaks)

Openbook

Wyn Wizard

A modern Pacmate or BrailleNote

Open Office, (if you are sighted since speech doesn't
work with this
program)





Validaters cannot use:



An old notetaker like Braille Lite or Braille 'N'
Speak (It doesn't retain
page breaks at all)

WordPad

Notepad

Windows Live Writer

A text editor



Monica Willyard

  _____

Bob Writes:
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black belt
validater?



This is an excellent suggestion Kaitlyn.



I would like to see something about necessary tools and
preferred tools.



For example, is ms word a necessary tool? or is Kurzweil
preferred over
Openbook? Can a validator validate properly using only a
notetaker?



I realize that this would be a difficult section because we
all, obviously,
prefer the tools we have on hand, and the prices for
adaptive technology
prohibit us from buying a whole new bunch of tools just
because it seems
that these are the preferred method.



However, a person couldn't validate using only a text
editor with a spell
checker because page numbers wouldn't be maintained. I
suspect that most of
the early books into the collection were submitted using
only a text editor.
However, if a new volunteer wanted to use a text editor to
validate a book
they'd be out of luck.



Thanks.

Bob



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