[bksvol-discuss] Re: Submission formats, conversions & a request.
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:54:41 -0800 (PST)
That's wonderful news!!
Cindy
WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE COLLECTION)IS AVAILABLE
AT
http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm
www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm
A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE AT
http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm
--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Submission formats, conversions & a request.
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 3:20 PM
> Hi All,
>
> Requiring RTF as a submission format was a suggestion from
> the list (that came up awhile ago) that I passed on to
> engineering, and I'm happy to share that it will be
> implemented with the new site. In terms of converting to RTF
> the books currently on the download list in ARK & KES
> formats: volunteers who have the capability and are willing
> to do the conversion can download the book, convert and
> upload it with a note in the comment section indicating that
> it has been converted and needs to be returned to the
> download list for validation. Carrie or I will then return
> it to the download list.
>
> We have the capability in-house to carry out the KES to RTF
> conversion, but at this point cannot convert the ARK files
> to RTF.
> If there is a particular book you would like to have us
> convert from KES to RTF please send me the title and author
> name.
>
> FYI I converted A Cold Christmas by Charlene Weir from KES
> to RTF and returned it to the download list today.
> Another title that I went in to convert was:
> L'ENFANT'S LEGACY : Public Open Spaces in
> Washington, D.C by Michael Bednar the file is listed as a
> KES file but when I downloaded and opened it I discovered it
> was actually an RTF. Unfortunately we don't have a way
> of editing the file type field. I have returned it to the
> download list with a note in the comment section about the
> actual file type.
>
> Also: I received a request from a member who is interested
> in validating "Touch and Blindness: Psychology and
> Neuroscience" a set of technical papers in ARK format
> on the download list. She would like to have it in RTF
> format. If there's someone willing to do the conversion
> on that that would be great!
>
> All good things,
> Pavi
>
>
> Pavi Mehta
> Volunteer Coordinator, Bookshare
>
> Benetech
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Bob
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:35 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: format for submission?
>
> Great suggestion Cindy.
>
> As I see it, there is no reason why an Ark, Kes, or Wyn
> (spelling again?)
> couldn't be translated by the originator to .rtf. Then
> any validator could
> work on their book.
>
> Should be a hard fast rule.
>
> Bob (the dictator).
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Rosenthal"
> <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Pavi Mehta" <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:17 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] format for submission?
>
>
> > Perhaps one change should be that all books must be
> submitted in rtf?
> > There are so few people who can validate ARK and KES
> files, or Wynn? Can
> > people who scan in those convert them to rtf before
> submitting or is that
> > not possible? There are currently a lot of Ark,
> including the Krueger, and
> > several Wynn and KES books on the download list, in
> case anyone who can
> > validate in those formats is interested in taking a
> look. smile
> >
> > Cindy the elder
> >
> > WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE BOOKSHARE
> COLLECTION)IS
> > AVAILABLE AT
> >
> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/wish_list/wish_list.htm
> > www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm
> >
> > A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE
> AT
> > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
> > www.lljfm.net/bookshare/home.htm
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 11/11/08, Pavi Mehta
> <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black
> belt validater?
> >> To: "Monica Willyard"
> <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>, bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 11:09 AM
> >> Thanks for ccing me directly Monica -- it
> definitely helps.
> >>
> >> This is absolutely great information to include in
> the
> >> manual -- especially because I've had to field
> questions
> >> along these lines for various new volunteers and
> it would
> >> save everyone's time and make so much sense to
> have it
> >> all outlined clearly in one place. Have added it
> to my
> >> growing pile of "edits and inclusions"
> >>
> >> Thanks all!
> >>
> >> Pavi
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Monica Willyard [mailto:rhyami@xxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 5:21 AM
> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Cc: Pavi Mehta
> >> Subject: Re: How to be a black belt validater?
> >>
> >> Bob, you bring up a good point here. I'm going
> to copy
> >> Pavi just in case she
> >> hasn't seen this message. I think this really
> needs to
> >> be included in the
> >> manual. We have lost several volunteers due to
> unclear
> >> specifications up
> >> front. For example, though almost all Windows
> users have
> >> access to WordPad,
> >> we can't use it for validating because it
> doesn't
> >> retain section breaks and
> >> doesn't show page breaks with speech. The
> latter
> >> problem could be solved by
> >> hiring a Jaws/Window Eyes scripter to make a
> script file
> >> that volunteers can
> >> download. The former problem, the one about
> section breaks,
> >> is a Microsoft
> >> issue we can't get around. I can only speak
> from a
> >> Windows perspective since
> >> I'm not familiar with the Mac or Linux.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would put the requirements this way in the
> manual.
> >> Validaters must have
> >> and use one of the following:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Microsoft Word
> >>
> >> Kurzweil
> >>
> >> WordPerfect (if you have some sight since speech
> >> doesn't announce page
> >> breaks)
> >>
> >> Openbook
> >>
> >> Wyn Wizard
> >>
> >> A modern Pacmate or BrailleNote
> >>
> >> Open Office, (if you are sighted since speech
> doesn't
> >> work with this
> >> program)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Validaters cannot use:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> An old notetaker like Braille Lite or Braille
> 'N'
> >> Speak (It doesn't retain
> >> page breaks at all)
> >>
> >> WordPad
> >>
> >> Notepad
> >>
> >> Windows Live Writer
> >>
> >> A text editor
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Monica Willyard
> >>
> >> _____
> >>
> >> Bob Writes:
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to be a black
> belt
> >> validater?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This is an excellent suggestion Kaitlyn.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I would like to see something about necessary
> tools and
> >> preferred tools.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For example, is ms word a necessary tool? or is
> Kurzweil
> >> preferred over
> >> Openbook? Can a validator validate properly using
> only a
> >> notetaker?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I realize that this would be a difficult section
> because we
> >> all, obviously,
> >> prefer the tools we have on hand, and the prices
> for
> >> adaptive technology
> >> prohibit us from buying a whole new bunch of tools
> just
> >> because it seems
> >> that these are the preferred method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> However, a person couldn't validate using only
> a text
> >> editor with a spell
> >> checker because page numbers wouldn't be
> maintained. I
> >> suspect that most of
> >> the early books into the collection were submitted
> using
> >> only a text editor.
> >> However, if a new volunteer wanted to use a text
> editor to
> >> validate a book
> >> they'd be out of luck.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> >
> >
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