[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:08:51 -0400
Yep is my understanding that it is a older version of Duxbury that is the
translator that bookshare is using.
Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
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----- Original Message -----
From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:56 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
Is bookshare using Duxbury to create its brf files?
E.
At 12:40 PM 3/25/2008, you wrote:
>Duxburry is smart enough to figure out that ... is an elipse, in braille,
>but not. . l., with the spaces between.
>
>
>Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
>and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
>juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
>Graduate Alumni Association Board
>www.guidedogs.com
>
>More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my
>limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
>- Helen Keller
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kathy Hester" <kathyruth@xxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:41 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
>
>
>Ellipsis is represented in Braille by three apostrophes with spaces on
>either side of them, but not between them. I don't know whether it would
>automatically print if you chose the "Find a Symbol to Print" dialog, but
>if
>you just put three periods, it won't. Any Braille reader with a knowledge
>of print could figure it out (in case you've done something that had them
>before) but that is how it is commonly done.
>
>Kathy
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Devorah Greenstein" <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:50 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
>
>
>It took me a matter of seconds to replace all my em dashes with hyphen
>hyphen with no spaces. So I will happily continue to do that as part of
>validating. Now another question. What about ellipses in Braille? That's
>the three periods in a row. And what happens with bullets? My next book
>has bullets. Is Braille happy with them?
>
>Thanks,
>Devorah
>
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>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:03 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question for Braille Readers
>
>Hi Allison,
>
> I'll add here that the bookshare conversion tools will turn
>the em dash, which should be represented in braille by two hyphens
>side by side with no surrounding spaces to a single hyphen unless you
>replace the em dashes in your books with two hyphens. This
>discussion comes up again and again and I, personally, want,
>especially, the books that I submit that are geared to non-adults to
>come out in accurate braille. I want young readers never to think
>that the appropriate representation of a pause in writing should be
>by typing a hyphen which they might, if em dashes are not replaced
>with double hyphens.
>
>Just myopinion again and again.
>
>Peace,
>Mayrie
>
>At 02:08 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote:
> >In braille the thing should read as two hyphens with no s[paces
> >between the two words so one--two is how it should read.
> >
> >Cindy
> >
> >Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:39 PM
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Question for Braille Readers
> >
> >
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >Quick question for Braille-readers. I do read Braille myself, but
> >I've
> >never paid attention to this issue before. I'm validating a book with
> >a lot
> >of em dashes. They look like this. - They usually connect two words
> >like
> >this. word1-word2. They do not usually have spaces around them. In
> >the
> >past I have left them as is in the books I validate.
> >
> >My question is, should I be doing anything special with the em dashes
> >in
> >order to make them easily read in Braille? I've never known there to
> >be a
> >special Braille character for the em dash, but there may be one. Does
> >it
> >just look
> >like a regular dash, or something else? Do they appear with spaces
> >around
> >them or not? Would most of you prefer me to add spaces, change the em
> >dashes to regular dashes, leave them alone, or something else?
> >
> >Thanks for any feedback you can give.
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Allison
> >
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