Allison, Someone else just asked me that question offlist. I'll send you the answer offlist, as I'm not sure everyone would be interested. BTW, both your comment ("whiny people") and Pratik, your answer made me laugh. Pratik, So does your nickname, Prat. I hope it's pronounced Prate. though that is not the way one would pronounce it as you've spelled it -- and then I keep wanting to add "fall." Cindy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page ? Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com