[bksvol-discuss] OT: obsolescence and planned obsolescence

  • From: Cindy Rosenthal <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:28:54 -0800 (PST)

Roger,

I'll take issue with your definition of "obsolescence" meaning that something 
better replaces the obsolete item. smile--yes, in some cases; refrigerators are 
an improvement over ice boxes, though perhaps not as much fun for kids when the 
iceman came. But we just bought a new waffle iron and had to return it because 
the handle broke on first attempted use. And it was a Krupp! Expensive. Then we 
found the one my mother had, that  grew up with, and after it was cleaned up, 
it's worked beautifully. Our refrigerator, which we've had for over 21 years, 
finally was wearing out, or so it told us when we returned from a brief trip 
(it was growling and making awful noises), so we ordered a new one. 
Fortunately, perhaps knowing that it was going to be replaced in two weeks and 
would have a well-earned rest, the old one continued working until the new one 
came--but I've read stories of the newer models breaking down.

Perhaps it's because companies realized that if something is made to last, they 
can't make as much money as if things had to be replaced periodically--hence, 
the phrase "planned obsolescence," which we've experienced with 
toaster-ovens--I can't even remember how many we've had to replace in our 43 
years of marriage--and microwave ovens.

Cindy



--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: FW: Google
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 7:57 AM
> Actually, I would think that we should hope for the
> obsolescence of
> everything we use. Obsolescence means that something better
> has
> replaced it. Shouldn't we all be striving for a better
> way?
> 
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Tracy Carcione
> <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Sue,
> > NLS and Bookshare would become obsolete if all print
> books were easily
> > accessible.  Something I think is greatly to be
> desired, but not likely to
> > happen any time soon.
> > Though I do love hardcopy braille, and only NLS
> provides that on a lending
> > basis.
> > Tracy
> >
> >>
> >> I cannot imagine why anyone would say they hope
> NLS and Bookshare will
> >> become obsolete.
> >>
> >> Sue S.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Monica Willyard"
> <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:28 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: FW: Google
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't think Bookshare will become obsolete
> in part because Google isn't
> >> scanning modern books of popular interest. Most of
> their books are older
> >> and/or more academic in scope. While we'd be
> able to read out of print
> >> books
> >> on Google, we'd still need Bookshare to read
> current bestsellers and other
> >> recent content, books written in the past 20 years
> or so. That could
> >> change,
> >> of course, but I doubt it would be within the next
> five years. With 35
> >> million books available in print right now, I
> think there is plenty of
> >> room
> >> for Bookshare. Finally, Bookshare's business
> model is different from how
> >> Google Books works, and I think the two can be
> compatible and will
> >> supplement each other over time.
> >>
> >> Monica Willyard
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