Hi Sue, I'd do a find and replace to replace all of them. I say this because in braille, the closing smart quote looks accurate (just like a regular closing quote). Trouble is that it isn't. We just can't see that the closing smart quote looks different from the regular closing quote in braille. Just thought I'd mention that even though the difference isn't apparent in braille, it still exists. I'm sure that you figured this out by now, but thought I ought to mention it, for the sake of completeness. Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:43 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: More on Roger's recent submission. Thanks, Mayrie. I have been changing them manually as I proofread, but I did not know they were called smart quotes. Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:24 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: More on Roger's recent submission. Hi Sue! The smart quotes make the opening and closing quotes both look like a closing quote in braille. So, if you see an open quote in braille that looks in braille like a closing quote when you're proofreading, you probably need to tell Word to change smart quotes to regular or straight quotes. Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:45 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: More on Roger's recent submission. What do smart quotes look like in Braille? What dots? You say A circumflex, but I do not remember what that looks like? The reason I ask is that a lot of the publisher quality books seem to have trouble with quotation marks when translated into BRF files. They also have the problem of sometimes interpreting the apostrophe as an open quote with a dot before the quotation mark. Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] More on Roger's recent submission. Hi Roger and Everyone else, In true OpenBook fashion, your submission of Imago has smart quotes. Whoever takes this book to proofread will need to change the smart quotes to regular quotes. This problem is not apparent to anyone using only speech. That is why I mention it. Also, OpenBook uses these smart quotes routinely. I don't know if Bookshare's tools have learned to deal with this problem. I think I remember someone saying that that is either in the works, or fixed, but if not corrected, smart quotes read as an a circumflex in the daisy books. I have no idea how munched they are in the brf files, but this change from smart quotes to regular quotes is easy to do in word. Just thought I'd mention it. Roger you didn't cause a problem, it's just an issue that OpenBook has for everyone. Mayrie To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2206 - Release Date: 06/27/09 17:55:00 To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2206 - Release Date: 06/27/09 17:55:00 To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.