Since I will probably not be able to attend such a class, I'd appreciate someone asking one question for me. It seems to me that as story titles, page numbers, chapter numbers, are all nonrepetative, why should they be stripped any more than whole lines of text?
Thanks.----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing chapter headings Hi Pavi and all,I wonder if someone from engineering could meet with us in the bookshare classroom to answer questions. I think that would save a whole lot of time.
Just my opinion. Bob----- Original Message ----- From: Pavi Mehta
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:50 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing chapter headings Hi Laura Ann and othersSorry for the delay in response on this. Carrie and I had a conversation about it just recently and figured the best and most thorough approach to understanding how the current converter works as opposed to the notorious stripper of old, would be to request a detailed explanation from the engineering team so that we all know exactly how to handle chapter headings and page numbers etc. I have made the request and as soon as we have that information we will be sure to include it in the manual as well as on this list (and the newsletter).
All good things, Pavi Pavi Mehta Volunteer Coordinator, Bookshare Benetech 480 S. California Ave., Suite 201 Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609 USA Phone: +1 650 644-3459 pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.benetech.org The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity A Nonprofit OrganizationFrom: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laura Ann
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 8:27 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing chapter headingsI don't know....I haven't seen a bookshare staff memeber answer this question yet.
I hope we will get an official word on it sometime soon.I have also emailed privately trying to make sure I am doing it right so we don't loose the first line of text to the stripper.
But I haven't heard anything so not sure.I do the pattern like Mary suggest of blank line, chapter heading, blank line text. I insert blank lines at the top of all pages hoping the stripper doesn't take part of the book out. I on books that have page numbers leave them and on ones that don't leave them out. I prefer the leaving them out due to how it reads when listening to fiction.
I leave them in on non fiction.I didn't realize that the stripper could take out the text of the book last year though and have tried Sue's ** to protect and thought someone had said with the new stripper it doesn't take out the text....
so not sure and not sure either from a bookshare staff on Page numbers vs not putting them in.
I know listening its not pleasant to hear the page number read twice on the stream or in a program on the computer from the daisy file when page numbers are left and I have emailed from the bookshare web site and from my email account asking if the page numbers are necessary for daisy navagation but never heard back on it.
I would like to know from bookshare staff how the new site and new stripper and daisy navagation handles
page numbers text chapter headings so they are protected.what protacall do they want us as volunteers to follow for daisy navagation
I know as volunteers we have ideas and opinions but wondered what the official word is from bookshare staff on what the preferred way to handle all of this would be.
This is not addressed in the manual and I hope that the hours we spend on books protects the text of the books.
Yes, I know its been dealt with here in the past few weeks in long conversations. But I have seen only volunteers express opinions but no word from the staff on how the stripper works and the page navagation works.
HOping for official word to know how to make our books the highest quality.
Laura Ann At 09:35 PM 3/27/2009, you wrote: So, Mayrie... If the page numbers are at the bottom of the page and I *don't* move them to the top of the page (I almost always do), then the first line after the blank line is deleted? I did not know that. Bummed Out, Marilyn On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:45 PM, mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx wrote: Hi Everybody! I downloaded three books from the bookshare collection last night,one of them a very new addition to the collection, and none of them had any
chapter headings. In case anyone doesn't know how to make sure that chapter headings won't be stripped from your books by the terrific (serious sarcasm) stripper, here is the page formatting that works. Page break Blank line Page number Blank line Chapter heading Blank line Text on the page Blank line Next page break. I would like to stress that if there isn't a page number above the chapter heading, the chapter headings will very likely not appear in thefinal copy of the book that bookshare patrons download from the collection.
I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but just in case anyone doesn't know about this issue, I thought I'd mention it. Thanks for hearing me out. Mayrie To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
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