[bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing chapter headings

  • From: "Lynn I" <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:36:30 -0500

Hi Laura Ann,

I always number pages in a book if I can determine what the page number should 
be. I don't like listening to them either, but I think they are necessary for 
DAISY file navigation.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong. *smile*

Blessings.

Lynnsky

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Laura Ann 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:26 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Missing chapter headings


  I don't know....I haven't seen a bookshare staff memeber answer this question 
yet.
  I hope we will get an official word on it sometime soon.

  I have also emailed privately trying to make sure I am doing it right so we 
don't loose the first line of text to the stripper.

  But I haven't heard anything so not sure.

  I do the pattern like Mary suggest of blank line, chapter heading, blank line 
text.
  I insert blank lines at the top of all pages hoping the stripper doesn't take 
part of the book out.
  I on books that have page numbers leave them and on ones that don't leave 
them out.
  I prefer the leaving them out due to how it reads when listening to fiction.
  I leave them in on non fiction.

  I didn't realize that the stripper could take out the text of the book  last 
year though and have tried Sue's ** to protect and thought someone had said 
with the new stripper it doesn't take out the text....

  so not sure and not sure either from a bookshare staff on Page numbers vs not 
putting them in.

  I know listening its not pleasant to hear the page number read twice on the 
stream or in a program on the computer from the daisy file when page numbers 
are left and I have emailed from the bookshare web site and from my email 
account asking if the page numbers are necessary for daisy navagation but never 
heard back on it.

  I would like to know from bookshare staff how the new site and new stripper 
and daisy navagation handles 
  page numbers
  text
  chapter headings so they are protected.
  what protacall do they want us as volunteers to follow for daisy navagation 

  I know as volunteers we have ideas and opinions but wondered what the 
official word is from bookshare staff on what the preferred way to handle all 
of this would be.

  This is not addressed in the manual and I hope that the hours we spend on 
books protects the text of the books.


  Yes, I know its been dealt with here in the past few weeks in long 
conversations.
  But I have seen only volunteers express opinions but no word from the staff 
on how the stripper works and the page navagation works.

  HOping for official word to know how to make our books the highest quality.

  Laura Ann

  At 09:35 PM 3/27/2009, you wrote:

    So, Mayrie...

    If the page numbers are at the bottom of the page and I *don't* move
    them to the top of the page (I almost always do), then the first line
    after the blank line is deleted?  I did not know that.

    Bummed Out,
    Marilyn

    On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:45 PM, mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx wrote:


      Hi Everybody!

      I downloaded three books from the bookshare collection last night,
      one of them a very new addition to the collection, and none of them had 
any
      chapter headings.

      In case anyone doesn't know how to make sure that chapter headings
      won't be stripped from your books by the terrific (serious sarcasm)
      stripper, here is the page formatting that works.

      Page break
      Blank line
      Page number
      Blank line
      Chapter heading
      Blank line
      Text on the page
      Blank line
      Next page break.  

      I would like to stress that if there isn't a page number above the
      chapter heading, the chapter headings will very likely not appear in the
      final copy of the book that bookshare patrons download from the 
collection.

      I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but just in case
      anyone doesn't know about this issue, I thought I'd mention it.

      Thanks for hearing me out.

      Mayrie


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