The charts are not nearly as hard as a family tree, but it is a lot of work to type the symbols and to make sure they are correct. Like I might do: (granted I'm not a hand knitter only a machine knitter and I haven't done it in a while so I might make up some stitches here) x = knit o = purl / = psso And here is the chart: Row 1: xxxxxxxxxxooooooooooxxxxxxxxxx Row 2: xxxxxxxxxxxooooooooxxxxxxxxxx Row 3: xxxxxxxxxxxxooooooxxxxxxxxxxxx Well, that's enough to give you an idea. You just type out exactly what the chart has. If it uses x, o and / then you use those. If it uses symbols you can't duplicate on your keyboard, I assign it a letter or a number and put that in the key. So they're not "hard" like figuring out a family tree, just a lot of work in typing them and making sure you've typed them correctly. -- Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading: Heads You Lose by Lisa Lutz See everything I've read this year at: www.michiganrxtech.com/books.html