Hi Sandi, No, the images won't be accessible. If they were, they'd have been rendered readably in the daisy file in the first place. Sorry! Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandi Ryan Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 8:45 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knitting books Hi Mary, I can try to get them as Daisy books with images, but will those images be readable? The symbols are often x's or *'s, but sometimes are cute little icons used to represent a particular stitch. Ah, the very good old days when patterns were written out, not represented in charts! Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knitting books > Hi Sandi, > > What I think happens is that the charts are available in the "daisy with > images" books, but not present in the "daisy" or brf books because they > are > graphics of somesort, just not straight text, which Bookshare's conversion > tools don't know how to handle. I'd bet the images that you want are > present in the "daisy with images" files of books, but aren't accessible > because the images aren't straight text. > > Just a guess on my part, as I can't verify that myself. > > Mayrie > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandi Ryan > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 7:17 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knitting books > > Hi Debby, > > Often the charts are mentioned in the patterns themselves (use Chart X to > complete pattern rows 9-57, reading the K rows from left to right and the > P > rows from right to left), something like that--and then no chart is there. > It may be that Bookshare's software chucks the charts because they look > like > garbage characters, but I don't know that. I just know it's frustrating > to > read through a pattern, say to myself "Oh, that looks great! Can't wait > to > make it," and then find out I can't because the charts are missing. > > Sandi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debby Franson" <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 8:58 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knitting books > > >> Hi Tracy, Jamie and anyone who has had anything to do with knitting >> books! >> >> Are the charts missing entirely, or are they a graphic, which would do >> those like me with no sight, no good? >> >> Debby >> >> At 08:47 AM 2/10/2012, Tracy Carcione wrote >>>I guess we've identified an area where our books are better than PQ--we >>>take the trouble to put in complicated charts if we can. >>>Tracy >>> >>> > Hi Tracy, >>> > >>> > I've noticed some tables and charts missing in PQ books too. One I >>> > downloaded was supposed to have a family tree. It explained how to >>> > read >>> > the >>> > tree, but the tree itself wasn't there. >>> > >>> > Sue S. >>> > >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Tracy Carcione >>> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 7:36 AM >>> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Knitting books >>> > >>> > Hi Jamie. >>> > Many blessings on your head for taking all that trouble! I know how >>> > hard >>> > it is to translate those charts; I've occasionally tortured my sister >>> > with >>> > it. >>> > Guess I'll have to look for knitting books submitted by you. >>> > The PQ knitting books are full of charts. Or should I say lacking, >>> > since >>> > the charts aren't actually there at all. >>> > Tracy >>> > >>> >> Tracy, the books I have done with knitting charts, I have >>> >> painstakingly >>> >> typed in the graphs with whatever symbol is in the book (x, o, / >>> >> whatever). >>> >> >>> >> They are extremely difficult books to do even when there are only a >>> >> few >>> >> graphs. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Jamie in Michigan >>> >> >>> >> Currently Reading: Heads You Lose by Lisa Lutz >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> See everything I've read this year at: >>> >> www.michiganrxtech.com/books.html >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >>> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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