[bksvol-discuss] Re: I learn something new
- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:12:59 -0500
Dear heavens. I am going to go over the edge. How confusing folks! Just
a little feedback from anyone who understands what happens after a book is
approved could go a long way to helping us poor submitters and validators
who work hard mean well and go down to defeat for three years now.
I am discouraged.
E.
At 07:04 PM 11/30/2005, you wrote:
Exactly why I tested the split chapter method. I wanted to know by first
hand knowledge if it worked or not. I can say conclusively that it does
not. I checked again with the validator to make sure she didn't change
it, and she definitely didn't. If this method worked for some people I
would love to know why. Maybe what they meant by saying that it worked
was that the chapter number stayed because they placed it on the second
line, but the word chapter disappeared.
I should have placed the word chapter on a line, then the number on the
next line, and the title on the third line. That would have probably
resulted in the word chapter being removed, but the number and title remaining.
We agree completely on the other chapter protection methods.
Sarah Van Oosterwijck
Assistive Technology Trainer
http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:21 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I learn something new
Elizabeth,
I've posted these suggestions before. Here's my procedure and it does
seem to work, I just downloaded five or six recent submissions and
looked at them in Kurzweil. Page numbers were not present, but that's a
Kurzweil issue not a BookShare one.
A. If the book has running headers
Put a fake one above the chapter heading. When I say fake I don't mean
put a bunch of stars, follow the pattern of the book.
If the book has chapter titles on odd numbered pages, and the chapter
starts on an odd page, put the chapter title above it.
B. If books have all page numbers next to the running headers, except on
the chapter page its at the bottom, you should reposition the page number
to the proper place in the dummy header.
C. If the book has no headers and page numbers are at the bottom of the
page, you should split the chapter onto two lines. For example
Chapter One
should be written
Chapter
One
This presumably will not be counted as a header because it is more than
just a single line of text.
This last one has been the most difficult for me to verify. The first two
I have seen work.
The new validation instructions will hopefully include more
examples/explanation.
Best,
Jake
----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:33 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I learn something new
Definitely do what is easiest for you since apparently nothing works to
retain chapter headings. I have tried.
E.
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At 07:04 PM 11/30/2005, you wrote:
I should have placed the word chapter on a line, then the number on the next line, and the title on the third line. That would have probably resulted in the word chapter being removed, but the number and title remaining.
We agree completely on the other chapter protection methods.
Sarah Van Oosterwijck Assistive Technology Trainer http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I learn something new
Elizabeth,
I've posted these suggestions before. Here's my procedure and it does seem to work, I just downloaded five or six recent submissions and looked at them in Kurzweil. Page numbers were not present, but that's a Kurzweil issue not a BookShare one.
A. If the book has running headers
Put a fake one above the chapter heading. When I say fake I don't mean put a bunch of stars, follow the pattern of the book.
If the book has chapter titles on odd numbered pages, and the chapter starts on an odd page, put the chapter title above it.
B. If books have all page numbers next to the running headers, except on the chapter page its at the bottom, you should reposition the page number to the proper place in the dummy header.
C. If the book has no headers and page numbers are at the bottom of the page, you should split the chapter onto two lines. For example
Chapter One
should be written
Chapter One
This presumably will not be counted as a header because it is more than just a single line of text.
This last one has been the most difficult for me to verify. The first two I have seen work.
The new validation instructions will hopefully include more examples/explanation.
Best, Jake
----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:33 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I learn something new
Definitely do what is easiest for you since apparently nothing works to retain chapter headings. I have tried.
E.
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