[bksvol-discuss] Re: I don't know what to think about things right now

But, there has got to be a way though to let the publishers know that someone has already done the title where x marks the spot on the book, see? I won't give up though.


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"To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you
forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be
sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way
people can relate to, then I think you're on to something. You want
the sophistication to lie in the purity of the sound, the beauty of
the arrangements, and the quality of the performances."-Trumpeter
Chris Botti
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On 7/27/2010 6:13 PM, solsticesinger wrote:
It doesn't seem to matter what we say, or how we object. We're just told that it has to do with the contract that was signed with the publisher. So, bringing this to anyone's attention seems a bit fruitless. It's a contract. There's no way to get out of it right now. Everything takes time, and on and on and on it goes.
Solstice Singer
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    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Chela Robles <mailto:cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx>
    *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:02 PM
    *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: I don't know what to think about
    things right now

    OK then, I'm just saying as a team we should approach whoever is
    in charge of rejecting/putting less quality books about our hard
    effort which pays for our memberships here, to the person
    directly, and will that person speak up or forever hold their
    peace please? Thank you! Honestly, I've heard a lot of what is
    going on here and I hope you all won't take my words offensively,
    I was just trying to encourage you all not to go away is all ok,
    sorry for the harm hopefully not done yet, I might as well think
    about stuff like leaving the two lists here, and I hope my text
    goes through this time instead of a blank email. I'm not at all
    offended just annoyed at the fact I try hard too, to keep you all
    calm, but then again, I'm only one person like the rest of you.

      I recently told someone I'd leave the lists for some reasons, but would 
be willing to do behind-the-scenes work for Bookshare and if that is the case, 
then I will think about bidding you all good-bye. Please let us just try to 
convince whoever has been putting our hard efforts asside and placing them with 
publisher poor quality books which would have to be redone anyway to the person 
directly.
    --
    "To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you
    forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be
    sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way
    people can relate to, then I think you're on to something. You want
    the sophistication to lie in the purity of the sound, the beauty of
    the arrangements, and the quality of the performances."-Trumpeter
    Chris Botti
    --
    Chela Robles
    AIM and E-Mail:cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx
    Skype: jazzytrumpet
    WindowsLive Messenger:cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx
    I Volunteer for a non-profit organization called Bookshare, to find
    out more go to:http://www.bookshare.org
    --


    On 7/27/2010 5:45 PM, solsticesinger wrote:
    Chela,
    What exactly is it that we're supposed to do? Hopefully, not
    continue to do good and valuable work, only to have it replaced
    by a publisher copy that is very often of poorer quality. I think
    that's a lot to ask of people.
    Certainly, I think bookshare is a valuable organization, and I
    enjoy scanning. In fact, many know that it's sort of a zen
    activity for me. However, when I see my hard work, as well as the
    hard work of proofreaders, discarded because publisher quality
    books come along, I am discouraged, and, personally, I think
    that's a valid feeling. My time is too valuable to be wasted like
    this.
    In the past several hundred books, I found six of my scans had
    been replace. I received no email notices about any of these
    replacements. If I hadn't browsed the new books section, I never
    would have known. So, not only is my time being wasted, but I'm
    not even being told that my scan has been replaced? I find this
    quite discourteous, to be honest.
    So, please define exactly what it is you think we should all do
    together as a team. If it's productive, and doesn't cause me to
    waste my time, I'm happy to do it, but, if it involves being
    content with the current state of affairs, I can not and will not
    do so.
    Solstice Singer
    Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me, each Wednesday
    evening from 7-10 eastern, for The Eclectic Collection: a
    Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to:
    http://mojoradio.us:9090

            ----- Original Message -----
            *From:* Chela Robles <mailto:cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx>
            *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
            *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:55 PM
            *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: I don't know what to
            think about things right now

            I'm here to encourage not discourage, to urge not fade
            away, come on guys you all can do it, I know you can,
            just takes more effort you dig? I understand where you
            all who are complaining are coming from but we shouldn't
            quit altogether. We're a team and we work together, so
            who is with me, I can't hear you so shout it out loud!

            --
            "To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with 
you
            forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be
            sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way
            people can relate to, then I think you're on to something. You want
            the sophistication to lie in the purity of the sound, the beauty of
            the arrangements, and the quality of the performances."-Trumpeter
            Chris Botti
            --
            Chela Robles
            AIM and E-Mail:cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx
            Skype: jazzytrumpet
            WindowsLive Messenger:cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx
            I Volunteer for a non-profit organization called Bookshare, to find
            out more go to:http://www.bookshare.org
            --


            On 7/27/2010 11:43 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
            Jamie,  Susan and I don't particularly want to leave but
            neither do we want our work wasted.  I believe that is
            our right as volunteers.  If an organization is to
            utilize a pool of volunteers, it is their responsibility
            and job to direct them to the tasks they wish them to
            do.  I have directed volunteer pools several times in my
            working life and I know this to be the case.

            
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            *From:* bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf
            Of *Jamie Prater
            *Sent:* Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:06 PM
            *To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            *Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] I don't know what to think
            about things right now

            Hi, all, I've been following the threads about PQ books
            versus volunteer work.  I've enjoyed volunteering for
            Christian fiction and kids' stuff mostly and because of
            page numbering issues, I've backed off considerably on
            what I volunteer for.  Every day for the past several
            weeks has been like Christmas looking at and downloading
            all the new books lately.  I'm very, very sad that this
            new influx of books is starting to run some top knotch
            volunteers away because of publishers' issues.  I see
            both sides of the coin on these issues but wish all you
            fantastic volunteers would find a reason to stay at
            bookshare.  I like books from a Pentecostal Christian
            standpoint as far as Christian/nonfiction goes, and I
            love all kinds of Christian fiction, classics, and
            general fiction as well as kids' stuff.  Some of the
            volunteers who've said they are most likely leaving
            bookshare are ones who print some of these kinds of
            books.  I know there are so very many books out there in
            the world, and I do wish we could all find a niche and
            grow bookshare and everybody can feel like useful and
            contributing members of bookshare and society.  I had no
            idea this wonderful growth spurt for bookshare would run
            off volunteers and this is a bittersweet pill to swallow
            and makes me feel very, very sad.  Please folks
            reconsider before quitting the wonderful job you're all
            doing on adding books to the collection.  Lori and Mike
            in particular, thanks to you, I've got some Jentezen
            Franklin books I'd not otherwise have, and this makes me
            sad to see you and others go.  Thanks and have a blessed
            day.

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