[bksvol-discuss] Re: I don't know what to think about things right now

It doesn't seem to matter what we say, or how we object. We're just told that 
it has to do with the contract that was signed with the publisher. So, bringing 
this to anyone's attention seems a bit fruitless. It's a contract. There's no 
way to get out of it right now. Everything takes time, and on and on and on it 
goes.

Solstice Singer
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chela Robles 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:02 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I don't know what to think about things right 
now


  OK then, I'm just saying as a team we should approach whoever is in charge of 
rejecting/putting less quality books about our hard effort which pays for our 
memberships here, to the person directly, and will that person speak up or 
forever hold their peace please? Thank you! Honestly, I've heard a lot of what 
is going on here and I hope you all won't take my words offensively, I was just 
trying to encourage you all not to go away is all ok, sorry for the harm 
hopefully not done yet, I might as well think about stuff like leaving the two 
lists here, and I hope my text goes through this time instead of a blank email. 
I'm not at all offended just annoyed at the fact I try hard too, to keep you 
all calm, but then again, I'm only one person like the rest of you.

 I recently told someone I'd leave the lists for some reasons, but would be 
willing to do behind-the-scenes work for Bookshare and if that is the case, 
then I will think about bidding you all good-bye. Please let us just try to 
convince whoever has been putting our hard efforts asside and placing them with 
publisher poor quality books which would have to be redone anyway to the person 
directly.
--
"To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you
forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be
sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way
people can relate to, then I think you're on to something. You want
the sophistication to lie in the purity of the sound, the beauty of
the arrangements, and the quality of the performances."-Trumpeter
Chris Botti
--
Chela Robles
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  On 7/27/2010 5:45 PM, solsticesinger wrote: 
    Chela,

    What exactly is it that we're supposed to do? Hopefully, not continue to do 
good and valuable work, only to have it replaced by a publisher copy that is 
very often of poorer quality. I think that's a lot to ask of people.

    Certainly, I think bookshare is a valuable organization, and I enjoy 
scanning. In fact, many know that it's sort of a zen activity for me. However, 
when I see my hard work, as well as the hard work of proofreaders, discarded 
because publisher quality books come along, I am discouraged, and, personally, 
I think that's a valid feeling. My time is too valuable to be wasted like this.

    In the past several hundred books, I found six of my scans had been 
replace. I received no email notices about any of these replacements. If I 
hadn't browsed the new books section, I never would have known. So, not only is 
my time being wasted, but I'm not even being told that my scan has been 
replaced? I find this quite discourteous, to be honest.

    So, please define exactly what it is you think we should all do together as 
a team. If it's productive, and doesn't cause me to waste my time, I'm happy to 
do it, but, if it involves being content with the current state of affairs, I 
can not and will not do so.

    Solstice Singer
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7-10 eastern, for The Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. 
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        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Chela Robles 
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:55 PM
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I don't know what to think about things 
right now


        I'm here to encourage not discourage, to urge not fade away, come on 
guys you all can do it, I know you can, just takes more effort you dig? I 
understand where you all who are complaining are coming from but we shouldn't 
quit altogether. We're a team and we work together, so who is with me, I can't 
hear you so shout it out loud!

--
"To me, music that breaks your heart is the music that stays with you
forever. It's one thing to be melancholy and one thing to be
sophisticated, but when you get the two of them together in a way
people can relate to, then I think you're on to something. You want
the sophistication to lie in the purity of the sound, the beauty of
the arrangements, and the quality of the performances."-Trumpeter
Chris Botti
--
Chela Robles
AIM and E-Mail: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx
Skype: jazzytrumpet
WindowsLive Messenger: cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxxxx
I Volunteer for a non-profit organization called Bookshare, to find
out more go to: http://www.bookshare.org
--

        On 7/27/2010 11:43 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote: 
          Jamie,  Susan and I don't particularly want to leave but neither do 
we want our work wasted.  I believe that is our right as volunteers.  If an 
organization is to utilize a pool of volunteers, it is their responsibility and 
job to direct them to the tasks they wish them to do.  I have directed 
volunteer pools several times in my working life and I know this to be the 
case.  



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          From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Prater
          Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 1:06 PM
          To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [bksvol-discuss] I don't know what to think about things 
right now


          Hi, all, I've been following the threads about PQ books versus 
volunteer work.  I've enjoyed volunteering for Christian fiction and kids' 
stuff mostly and because of page numbering issues, I've backed off considerably 
on what I volunteer for.  Every day for the past several weeks has been like 
Christmas looking at and downloading all the new books lately.  I'm very, very 
sad that this new influx of books is starting to run some top knotch volunteers 
away because of publishers' issues.  I see both sides of the coin on these 
issues but wish all you fantastic volunteers would find a reason to stay at 
bookshare.  I like books from a Pentecostal Christian standpoint as far as 
Christian/nonfiction goes, and I love all kinds of Christian fiction, classics, 
and general fiction as well as kids' stuff.  Some of the volunteers who've said 
they are most likely leaving bookshare are ones who print some of these kinds 
of books.  I know there are so very many books out there in the world, and I do 
wish we could all find a niche and grow bookshare and everybody can feel like 
useful and contributing members of bookshare and society.  I had no idea this 
wonderful growth spurt for bookshare would run off volunteers and this is a 
bittersweet pill to swallow and makes me feel very, very sad.  Please folks 
reconsider before quitting the wonderful job you're all doing on adding books 
to the collection.  Lori and Mike in particular, thanks to you, I've got some 
Jentezen Franklin books I'd not otherwise have, and this makes me sad to see 
you and others go.  Thanks and have a blessed day.  

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